Earth N sky, you should investigate Jamin's history and lack of climbing wisdom (displayed on this site alone) before giving much weight to his advice.
At this point, Buckaroo, I believe you could convince the naysayers of the evils of fluoridated water by simply proving you've been drinking it heavily since early childhood.
Yeah, shoddy work, I know. But I figure that I'll take shit only from others who can afford more than one home. /snob
I hate to see bad carpentry happen to good people