larrythellama

Jason I disagree with most of the people, you have all the tools needed to do two grade IV's down there. Just be smart about it.

just finnished the poisonwood bible and just that happend. drought drove the ants to overrun the village and consume everything.

3 hrs +/- from seattle youhave to drive up the teaneway about 28 miles or so. tho i read somewhere there are some small fires in the area so you might check with the cle elum ranger station.

did you beat it with a stick?

a strip club porn? pffft! i just had my first encounter with a strip club recently and all i can say is that i was/am disappointed in the overall experiece. i even fell asleep as the entertainment was anything but.

will you be putting the nickels in the slot machines for us newbies?

bless you!

tissue?

around dunsuir there is alot of access to the sacto river. this section of river is amazingly beautiful. tho in the early 80's i believe a train dumped several hundred tons of acid into the river and wipped all the living things in the river. tho the river has made a come back. bun the train company refuses to admit that the tracks are dangerous and guess what the politicans agree? this is like the 3rd or 4th bad train derailment in the area. or down by lake shasta there is some squatting camping to be had. tho on weekends be prepared for alot of people and cops. or just stay at lamebone's and get coffee and his world famous blueberry pancakes! safe drive!

packs? two ropes? dang people! that is some extra effort! kudos i guess?!

lotsa cool grade IV's down there. a few that come to mind are epineperine, cloud tower, levitation 29 and there are a few more then that too...i just dont know them off the top of my head...ask lanceg.

after looking at pax's friend's website i would like to say that even tho all the guidebooks state you need big gear this is not true in any respect. we had a hard time even finding a place to place a #3.5 friend. so any talk of an ow is not true at all. also the pic where the person is haning is breshaer's crack and it is .12 and not the actual start to wunsch's but just another variation on a piece of rock that has many perfect splitters. the actual start to wunsch's is the visable wavering crack with the pod mid height visable in the same pic mentioned above.

End up in Colorado for a week and climbed some really nice routes. I would have to say tho that the best route I did was Cynical Pinnacle's center route. I paired up with JRCO an old friend from the south sound who escaped the rain several years ago and had given me an open invite to come climb with him anytime. After 5 years I followed thru and I certainly am glad I did. The route is a 3 pitch flawless grainte hand crack. Stout for the grade as it is continous and some what steep, It reminded me of jamming on desert sandstone. Lotsa hand sized pieces needed. If anyone is down in the South Platte this is a must do. Next time I am down there I am gonna do the route next to it, Wunsch's Diehedral. Similar style route but even steeper!!!! And everyone says the appraoch is real bad, but even my fat ass sea level dweller found it not too bad. The sad thing was the fact that my coffee didnt set in until the 2nd pitch.

the worst part about skuzzy's whole ordeal..is that he WILL eat the scab.

garmont ferratas

you should all really get some work done.

"There have been joys too great to be described in words, and there have been griefs upon which I have not dared to dwell; and with these in mind I say: Climb if you will, but remember that courage and strength are nought without prudence, and that a momentary negligence may destroy the happiness of a lifetime." - Edward Whymper you are right not all accidents can be avoided, but i think one in which is self inflicted can.

I will have to try to come out for a few hours before it gets too hot...y'all gonna be there the rest of the week?

if you get rescued in the mountains that is bad style. if a person slips then they extended beyond their abilites to judge terrain or conditions. if people take offense to the reality that people do make mistake wheter climing or typing on the internet then they are tool ass bitches who need a dose of reality. take skuzzy for instance he took the grand death whipper, dan saved his life/well being without chestbeating or regards to himself as that is what climbing partners do for each other they take care of each other no matter the situation. skuzzy bumped his head good and they still walked out under their own power. that is climbing, they realized their error and took care of themselves. another close friend made a mistake and almost paid with his life. all sorts of misinfo was posted and i didnt take offense as the shitty negative energy does nothing for the situation. alex thx for the attempt at telling what happend. so people who are senstive fuck off.

icegirl i think you are a bit selfabsorbed about your newbie brood. i could careless who the newbies are my comment is/was directed more so at schultz and that scottish dude's concerns for not many easy climbs. you must not forget that there are more newbies then the few you have taken under your wing. ben and greg seem to spend a fair amount of time at index, they both are compentent climbers so thus i figured they could lead the way and help people out by setting top ropes on some of the routes that ALL NEWBIE CLIMBERS could attempt to step it up and try something beyond their perceived abilites. dont take this as an insult, but i could really careless about any group or individual newbie and was making a general statement. you have not seen me post in your newbie threads other to put a little slam on skuzzy. if you would like to rephriase my statement i will. "MAYBE RUDY, WILL, BEN, GREGW, BOBBYPERU AND OR MATTP CAN LEAD SOME OF THE HARDER MODERATE CLIMBS AND SET TOP ROPES UP FOR THE ENTIRE GROUP, WHETER THEY BE NEWBIES, NEOPHYTES, PEOPLE RETURNING TO THE SPORT AFTER A LONG HIATUS OR EVEN SEASONED VETERNS WHO WOULD RATHER SWILL A FEW BEERS AND THEN GET A NICE PUMP JUST TR'ING SOME CLASSIC INDEX GRANITE. hope that helps to clear up any confusion on your and any other persons part. have a nice day.

gas is cheap in idaho..... and i guess we will see you south there ben/........

jealous... tho i will be nearing the sierras that day... but index would be great, time for the newbies to step it up. you never better without trying. between skuzzy and gregw, they got enough routes wired to setup plenty of top ropes.

oh my gosh! god type people from texas even say so!

baby jesus was a clown and all his believers are even worse! eat a fetus for kerry and kill brown non-christains for bush! life is good here in ole america!

We all can only hope that Adopt a crag does a better job this year then when they were out at index last and made a mess of the inner wall and spent countless hours scrubbing an already perfectly clean crag, whilst avoiding any crag that actually needed scrubbing and pruning or trail work.