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As far as I’m concerned, the locals are usually the ones responsible for developing and maintaining their “home” crags. As a visitor, I respect their ethics and offer to assist in preserving those ethics to show my appreciation for their work. I would hope that they would do the same for me and mine.

Damn it...there goes my "cut & paste" routine

A pure ascent is leaving your helmet, harness, and rack in the truck. Everything else is compromise.

/giggles like panda

It's already happening... Resource the Access Fund ...the Nelson Rocks Preserve...Friends of Joshua Tree...etc Rock climbing is one of the fastest growing sports in the world... along with it comes the good and bad. It may be time to take up a less popular sport like tazer-tag

I find it entertaining that some climbers believe that by being the first person to ascend a particular line on a rock…they have somehow staked their claim on that line. To most folks…including many climbers…this is as ridiculous as surfers staking claim to their local breaks. Climbing areas are becoming increasingly regulated by forces outside of the climbing community. Perhaps after all of the popular areas have been regulated, these arguments will subside. FA’s will become less of a guide by which to maintain established routes. Climbing “boards” will be created to handle development disputes and requests will be made to increase the safety of popular routes. More than a traditionalist…I am a realist. The problem with the traditional bold style of climbing is that bumblies are going to get on my 5.8x death route and die…when that happens, undesirable attention is going to be drawn to that climbing area and the way bureaucracy works is that instead of coming up with a solution to the problem…they’ll just get rid of the problem. No climbing area/ no climbers/ no climbing-related deaths. The answer…compromise. All I had to do to avoid the situation was slap a 5-piece in the middle of the 20’ runout between the terminus of the crack and the slung tree. Climbing is no longer limited to the stoney-eyed, hairy-chested warrior…these days, she’s clothed the latest in Prana-wear and whatever style shoe five.ten has come out with for the Spring season. If I want to help protect climbing for future generations…I have to take into consideration the future generation of climbers.

Did you use the A: or the D: drive? It's my understanding that the D: drive only takes dollar bills

Hey Bill..how many peeps are going to be out this eve?

You'd have thought five.ten was testing out a new demographic

Dude! Cuz it makes me feel like a real traditionalist hardman climbing in bold style! You think my .8’s are sketchy…you should check out some of my 5.2 FA’s!

not if I set time bombs to blow the rocks to smitherings when I die. lol Or you can just sign it over to the NPS…they’ll take care of it

You know these gym rats are just going to come in behind us and retro bolt our routes when we die anyway

How many of the 5.8 FA's with death falls were "established" by 5.11+ climbers

Pulling down the walls in slacks and dress shoes…yeah Bill, you da man! I expect a tux next time around

This topic reminds me of something my mentor told me in the late 80’s: “A route rated “X” means that it hasn’t been finished.”

Werd... See you there!

A closer comparison would be the park service leading the bears into the campground.

Sounds good...what time...what do I need to bring

You know I'd climb with ya Bill...but I can't quite pull down White Rabbit and BofP...

25' woody, eh sounds like a party at your place!

I read about this a while back. Seems to me that the father's guilt is eating at him. He needs to be spending less time in court and more time in therapy. As far as the climbers' choice of places to go...yes, it would have been nice for Yos Auth to have posted a sign at the trail-head saying "shit's been known to fall from the sky here"...but quite honestly, I don't think it would have kept them from heading to the exact same spot. I know the updated guidebook has a photo of a massive rockfall on the GA...and where did my partner and I go?...exactly Here's hoping that his family finds peace.

Heading out tonight...get camp setup...should be a productive weekend. I'll let you know how it goes sir Bill

Hmmm, guess I should have checked here earlier...bummer Ah, soon the the weekend will be upon us

sAWHEET...Bringing the "gym" rack with me then...(you'll notice the lead card on the back of my harnes...cuz I'm hardcore!) PRG4lYf lol

Werd...I'm there. Gotta make a run by the house and grab me gear You got a rope? Rack? (don't like leaving shite in my truck)