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Don't confuse the word diet with a means to loose weight. I've been on the zone for 3 years and my body weight hasn't changed a pound though my body fat percentage has. Diet is basically just guidelines for eating. Food is one of the most effective drugs you put in to your body and you should treat it like a drug (at least thats what the zone says). The aspects of the zone which I use it for are increased energy and improved recovery. Though as a byproduct of only feeding the lean body mass on your body you tend to loose fat as well. some zone basics (my interpretation): Cereal = sugar Rice = sugar wheat = sugar don't eat sugar whole foods, where the fiber is intact with the protein and carb are the way to go.

I use macadamian nuts to help control the cravings when getting off the sugar addicition. Milk tends to satiate cravings as well. Train your body to run off good fats and the right type of high fat foods are ok, and actually are essential.

What is fitness, the long answer: http://www.crossfit.com/cf-download/CFJ-trial.pdf

So this summer am heading out on a 2 week trip this summer which will take me across two roads in the cascades which will be reasonable places to place a food cache. If you were leaving two caches in the cascades how would you protect your food. Is there any option i'm not thinking of?

I_like_sun, do you have anything to comment on the zone, or zone meals? None of your posts inspire any confidence that you know what you are doing w/r/t diet or exercise. If you wan't to learn and have some questions then ask.

I_like_sun, how long is it going to take you to find a different program, what you are doing is not working for you. If you have to use a machine or if you have to work out for more than 10 minutes with one movement do something else.

If you are keeping a constant insulin level (which is what the zone boils down to) you need lots less calories than you think. 3000 calories a day is a myth based on our crappy corn based insulin rolercoaster diets. Read The Omnivores Dillema or Entering The Zone if you want more info.

Zoneing for about 3 years now and I tend to go with the simple Meat/Eggs + fruit or veggies + black beans + macadamian nuts at most every meal. Kind of boring and not for the chef but gets the job done and easy to stick with it. Snaks are usually just plain milk + fish oil in afternoon then fruit shake + protein powder + fish oil in evening. Dont ignore the black beans though unless you are able to stomach 4 or 5 cups of veggies.

Plenty of cario you can do while having foot injuries. Its not all about running or riding (but I guess it is if you like repeated stress injuries). http://www.crossfiteastside.com/2007/01/down_19.html

http://59a2.org/lara/lara.html

What is a split?

By 15-20 miles per week I'm assuming you are referring to running? Maybe stop running? There is better, more applicable, less likely to end up with stress injury, training available these days (like crossfit). Also fish oil + asprin has helped prevent and heal stress injuries I end up with from climbing. PM me if you are interested in more info. Maybe doesn't help your immediate problem but might help you break the cycle.

Edited: Sorry didn't realize you were quoting that site. I think the core issue is that Twight has been charging the US military for stuff which has always been public and free through crossfit. Its about ethics not about copyright. I know this whole fall out between crossfit and twight happened a long time before 300.

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Long shot but lost my ice axe somewhere in 2 miles below little 8 mile lake; should be on the existing skin track if anyone skis up there in the next week or two. Initials "SC" on shaft in red fingernail polish. Will provide reward if found. thanks scott

Like already said here, listen to your body. But when your body tells you its too much you typically can start to address this through diet. Don't just add empty calories. Check out some of the crossfit info on rest (as they train super hard) and diet (they recommend the zone) and I think it will help you out. Stear away from processed carbs and balance your protein, carbs and esp fat. If you are training like you explain you probably should be training your body to be a fat burner but your body can't burn fat if you are feeding it cliff bars and gatorade all day. Probably plays a role in why you are never are able to recover. www.crossfit.com or PM me if you have specific questions.

I also have been suffering the patellar tendonitus for about 6 months now and just talked with my podiatrist about it and all he recommended was the knee strap thing which seems to be helping. Says just wear it when it hurts and eventually it will go away. I've also been trying to do the following things: 1. Fish oil + asprin every day. 2. Eat raw foods (a triathelete who I work out with developed massived tendonitis + calcification of his tendons by over training and over-carbing his diet which is pretty typical advice you see sometimes esp for someone who trains for those sports. Keep eating your meat, raw veggies, and stop that long distance bs unless you are out climbing). 3. Stop jumping until it heals. Its not called jumpers knee for no reason. 4. Ice massage after working out (put water in dixi cup, freeze, peel back and massage away on the tendon). 5. Stretch your hamstrings and lower back. So many people have fucked up lower legs because of these very typical problems. I've been trying to improve these and have seen the results in my knees. BTW, the ability to do a weighted overhead squat is good indicator of the flexibility and functionality of your posteior chain of muscles.

I've had the Stylus 720sw since June. I can't stand it. The pictures are crap compared with other point and shoot cameras I've used and this is especially the case in low light. Every shot I take at lower wall at index or other similarly shady places are blury. Sometimes I can get some good exposure when there is lots of light but I almost never get a good shot in anything bug full sunlight. Regarding the shock and waterproofness its not broken on me yet (though the lens cover sometimes sticks but I think that just cause i've gotten it durty) but I haven't dropped it from any great hieghts or exposed it to anything but drizzle. Battery life is pretty good though.

Sorry I was just trying to reply to the origional post: not necessarilly the same old tangent this mountie critique thread has taken like all the old mountie critique threads. I guess I was making the assumption that Jens was refering to "skill" as how hard one climbed. Not what gear skills you know as I think is pretty easy to learn anything about gear compared with the kind of learning which goes in to actually controlling your body to move up the rock. Yeah, most of the mouties don't want to climb hard and thats part of what makes them not, but not having very many that do around also doesn't provide the opportunity for students to be exposed to what it does take if they want to get there.

Specifically with regards to technical climbing ability (i.e., how hard can you climb) as a skill I don't think any course out there, esp the mounties, teaches the physical and mental aspects of climbing hard. I find that mountie instructors get wrapped up in the gear and the details of using that gear and completely ignore the fact that they or their students would probably climb harder if they manned up and attempted something over 5.7 or if they got themselves to the gym, lost 50 pounds and worked on getting strong. I think that it would be hard to debate that mountie instructors are poor on their gear skills but its pretty easy to note that for the most part they aren't a strong bunch of climbers. Its kind of hard to learn to climb 5.10 from someone who only climbs 5.7. Disclaimer: I sometimes instruct with the Everett mounties.

www.crossfit.com Just do the WOD.

Since I'm bored at work and my climbing partner is photo trigger happy here are some more of the same thing.

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The glider and the west face climbers are two different groups, those pictures were taken within probably 30 seconds of each other.