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I've had the Stylus 720sw since June. I can't stand it. The pictures are crap compared with other point and shoot cameras I've used and this is especially the case in low light. Every shot I take at lower wall at index or other similarly shady places are blury. Sometimes I can get some good exposure when there is lots of light but I almost never get a good shot in anything bug full sunlight. Regarding the shock and waterproofness its not broken on me yet (though the lens cover sometimes sticks but I think that just cause i've gotten it durty) but I haven't dropped it from any great hieghts or exposed it to anything but drizzle. Battery life is pretty good though.

Sorry I was just trying to reply to the origional post: not necessarilly the same old tangent this mountie critique thread has taken like all the old mountie critique threads. I guess I was making the assumption that Jens was refering to "skill" as how hard one climbed. Not what gear skills you know as I think is pretty easy to learn anything about gear compared with the kind of learning which goes in to actually controlling your body to move up the rock. Yeah, most of the mouties don't want to climb hard and thats part of what makes them not, but not having very many that do around also doesn't provide the opportunity for students to be exposed to what it does take if they want to get there.

Specifically with regards to technical climbing ability (i.e., how hard can you climb) as a skill I don't think any course out there, esp the mounties, teaches the physical and mental aspects of climbing hard. I find that mountie instructors get wrapped up in the gear and the details of using that gear and completely ignore the fact that they or their students would probably climb harder if they manned up and attempted something over 5.7 or if they got themselves to the gym, lost 50 pounds and worked on getting strong. I think that it would be hard to debate that mountie instructors are poor on their gear skills but its pretty easy to note that for the most part they aren't a strong bunch of climbers. Its kind of hard to learn to climb 5.10 from someone who only climbs 5.7. Disclaimer: I sometimes instruct with the Everett mounties.

www.crossfit.com Just do the WOD.

Since I'm bored at work and my climbing partner is photo trigger happy here are some more of the same thing.

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The glider and the west face climbers are two different groups, those pictures were taken within probably 30 seconds of each other.

Yes, was meanining kitty-litter decayed cavities big enough to go in to.

Climbed both SW face of Kangaroo temple (2 caves) and Tunnel Route on Concord this weekend (1 cave). What other cave-like features do people know of around washington pass which are only accessible via climbing routes?

PM me with your email address and I can send you some cool pics of yourselves.

I know this post is old but just wanted to note that we did the traverse using the 4th edition of the guide shortly after you did (july 4th week) and were able to make the non-avy-debris approach to cream lake mostly by using the GPS coordinates. We wouldn't have made it just with the route description as the distances implied between each landmark were longer than we expected. There is a little bit of flagging along the way (which we didn't add nor did we remove) but definitely was not straight forward. We hated to bust out the GPS but after that long day our weak-mountain-man wills had been wasted.

Was on the bailey range traverse in early july and when we were looking down from below cat peak in to the upper hoh valley (beyond where the trail heads up to olympus) we could make out at least two structures created with logs. They each consisted of two upright logs and were spanned by a third log (kind of like this "U" but upside down). They were in the middle of a large gravel bar so I imagine they were erected after the peak spring runoff. Anyone know what these were? I don't imagine access in there is very easy at all.

Turn left on Reiter Rd. when heading east towards gold bar. You can find your way up there from there. Just avoid the ORV trails, its a FS/Logging road the whole way.

Hi Jiri, that was us. Its my partners gear and he doesn't post here but I forwarded your message to him and he'll be emailing you. Thanks for grabbing it.

I think you can also pretty easily link lots of Big-oil with explotation, murder, war on people as well as the environment. Should we continue to protect these companies and their profits which clearly come at a high expense to life and community? Don't even try and question this until you've gone through www.endgame.org and looked up the relevant data (yes I'm talking to Dru and JayB ). Get some facts from there and then we can have some discussion.

If you were on a bike it wouldn't matter. You just posted you were riding the bus. Critical mass makes a concerted effort to let all busses by w/out delay and avoids the 4th st reroute of the bus tunnel to avoid this as well.

BTW, tonight should be critical mass 5:30 at westlake center if you care.

I beleive that a 747 uses about 1gal/sec jet fuel. Though for passenger travel per person fuel effeciency is better than auto. Choinaurd goes in to problems/costs/impact of air freight in Let My People Surf. Conclusion: if you care about the environment dont use air freight.

Humm, doesn't really sound like Feyerabend or even Kuhn for that matter. Have you got some basis for your understanding here about how science actually progresses or how one questions the framework which they are operating within?

Are you going to tell that to the salmon and the black bear and the forests and the rivers and every mother who carries toxins in their breast milk and every victim of rape and the indiginous populations of the world which are left? They should all move so you don't have to question the culture you live in and what you role is in maintaining that culture?

"There are forms of alienation that are relatively strange to statistically "normal" forms of alienation. The "normally" alienated person, by reason of the fact that he acts more or less like everyone else, is taken to be sane. Other forms of alienation that are out of step with the prevailing state of alienation are those that are labelled by the "normal" majority as bad or mad. The condition of alienations of being asleep, of being unconscious, of being out of one"s mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society highly values its normal man. It educates children to lose themselves and to become absurd, and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years. Our behaviour is a function of our experience. We act according to the way we see things. If our experience is destroyed, our behaviour will be destructive. If our experience is destroyed, we have lost our own selves. " from R. D. Laings Politics of Experience You all may be normal but if the frame of reference is insane then that doesnt' get you anywhere. A society which is based on exploitation and a status quo which is based on violence to maintain isn't a culture which should be defended.

Yet the current energy production system is based almost entirely on resources which exist in a finite capacity. Running out or resources or turning off and saving the resources, in the end, seem to have the same consequences?

I don't think this is the definition of commune . . . but that's not the point anyway. I'm not against sustainable agricutlre and I don't think Derick Jensen is against it either as long as it's truely sustainable and done in a way which also lets the eco-system be sustainable as well. Ok, how about posting some reference? Humm, sounds kind of like whats already happening. http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=hope,+bc&t=k&ll=49.696062,-120.401917&spn=0.516993,1.549072