John Frieh

Wasting time compared to what... posting here?

So put that in a letter and send it

How's the monorail coming along pony fucker? Did your wife give you permission to ride it alone?

stanley stanley stanley How soon you shipping south d00d? Nose in a day? Astro?

You drive to CAN every weekend? Didn't think so

Why, I live in Washington?? Because it sets precedent. I'll take a wild guess here but I'd bet anyone a beer the law will go in and a few more rescues will happen by parties in over their head over the next few years but somehow the media will spin the new law as an overall "success". Some punters will do the same thing on Baker or Rainier or some other gumby magnet and guess what... the State of Washington will follow suit. Just a guess though It's the same shit with Hyalite... just because you don't climb there doesn't mean it doesn't affect you... the FS figures out they can pull a fast one on the MT climbing community... why couldn't they do it somewhere else? Somebody do me a favor tonight at the lucky lab and personally thank the kids for indirectly supporting the MLU law and not giving any money to the access fund.

Does anybody know if any of the party posts here or what route they were attempting?

STRONG work guys! Boys of stumptown in the house

too many crazy bitches know where i live :laf: just kidding! almost done with the upgrades and its been 2 years... wanted to at least look into it...

flip mi casa PM or post here

PM me for names [swoon]Not a climber but oh those blue eyes... [/swoon]

Source? So far, no one has cited a creditable source for this information. I didn't see any mention on Patagonia about it, and Mr. Potter and Mrs. Davis-Potter are still listed as Ambassadors. Perhaps this thread belongs in Spray. It hasn't been announced to the public yet... it was only communicated last week internally so unless you are affiliated with Patagonia to some degree you wouldn't know. I can understand with the nature of this board how this might be perceived as a troll. I would say look at my post history on cc and decide for yourself I spend my time trolling or writing TRs.

Hayden Christensen on the left?

Awesome TR Joe! You ever going to get around to writing one for the pencil?

Patagonia dropped Dean and Steph from the ambassador program. They claim it isn't delicate arch fall-out.

in the mail... i swear but don't take my word for it... you could stream the entire album on their myspace page until yesterday... I think if you google around you can find it somewhere while you are at it listen to this: tasmanian pain coaster shit goes crazy about 2:45

*new* Modest Mouse *new* El-P this is the sound of what you don't know killing you :rawk:

We carried out 2 dana design expedition sized packs each filled with gear (I carried one, marcus the other). Unless Cristina had 2 packs with her for the trip someone else ditched their gear. Related to that talking with the owners it is my current understanding a third pack is still up there that Marcus and I did not find.

please: easy on the spray kids

No need to turn this into a witch hunt people. Learn from others mistakes... we all make them... we are all human. The much bigger concern here is access and how events like these can and likely will decrease ours. I hope you all are Access Fund members and are active within your climbing community including doing what you can to correct public opinion on MLUs (among other concerns currently affecting the climbing community)... write a letter to the editor, send an email, etc etc... it all helps! Well said dude

and buys some intel stock while you're at it! multi core is the future! all your processors are belonging to us!

I suspect so based on my conversations with Kellie. Then again any money donated to the Access Fund is money well spent.

I'm returning the gear. It's the right thing to do. I hope the owners follow suit and donate some money to the Access Fund.

Doing the right thing... So after a long winter of watching and waiting it appeared that the correct conditions needed to bring the black spider in were going to materialize on Sunday. Marcus and I headed up on Sat so we could get a high bivy and rest our legs for Sunday's attempt. We were cruising the ridge climbers left of the ski area when we saw something red under a large rock. Marcus pulled out his scope and we glassed it for a few minutes... too large to be a backpack. Fuck... do you think? It had to be one of the bodies from the first accident this year. So what do you do? The black spider comes in maybe once or twice a winter. More people have climbed yocum ridge than the spider. So what do you do? You do the right thing... you go check it out. You take care of your own. We descended 500' to find two red backpacks + a mini yard sale of gear. No bodies. The packs had been left end to end giving the appearance from a distance that it was a body in the fetal position. At first we thought it was abandoned gear from the north side accident... we started looking around for birds (old mountain rescue trick... where there are birds there is usually a body). No birds... We started looking for ID in the packs and I found this: Fuck. But relief. But still: fuck. We just wasted an hour and 1000' of travel to find someone's garbage. Fuck. So off we sped back up hill to try and make up for lost time. We made it to about 8.1k before the predicted storm rolled in so we settled in and hoped we could make up the lost distance in the morning. But you know how it turns out... the storm lasted till 6 am (as predicted) and we both knew our window had expired as we couldn't make up for lost time. No black spider. Again. Next year I guess. We rolled back down hill to the yard sale. Marcus and I were able to easily see the parking lot from the location of the jettisoned gear. Each balancing an expedition size backpack on our head in addition to each carrying our gear from our black spider attempt (30 lbs each) on our back we were able to cover the distance from the recovery spot to the parking lot in 45 minutes post holing the whole way. 45 minutes to the parking lot. It sucked... my neck still hurts... but it was the right thing to do. So the unpopular part... I don't know how to say this without making it sound like a personal attack... it's not my intention. But based on the larger ramifications (required MLUs) of this event + the north face triple fatality I feel the need to speak my piece. Based on: - the location of the found gear - the TR describing the ordeal - the contents of the gear - the presence of the gear on the mountain this long after the event it is apparent this team did not have the technical skill or knowledge to be on the mountain this time of year. - There are safer, more accessible locations than Illumination rock in winter that exist to learn the art of snow caving - Understand that when NOAA predicts 80% PoP that it translates loosely into "fucking nuking" - Map and compass skills are not optional or designated to just one person. Everyone should have taken a compass bearing and conferred as a team. - Everyone should have self arrest skills. Looking at the "cliff" the leader fell off it should have been easily caught/self arrested by the team... not the entire team going over. - Having a GPS coordinate marking the parking lot as well as at Silcox and the top of Magic Mile would have prevented all of this as well as told one how close one was to the parking lot. - Clean your garbage up off the mountain as quickly as humanly possible especially if other unrecovered bodies on the mountain still exist. I lost my attempt doing the right thing while you were busy drinking pints at the lucky lab. I hope anyone considering Hood anytime in the future makes sure they have the skill and knowledge to avoid making these same mistakes and not having to rely on a MLU or a cell phone. It would be the right thing to do. If you feel you need an MLU and/or cell phone for the "just in case" situation perhaps you should reevaluate your objective and skill set. I think it is awesome the group has been raising money for PMR. But what about the rest of us? What about the rest of the climbing community? What do we get out of the deal? As far as I can tell decreased access and new laws to adhere to. I would like to see some of the money raised be donated to the access fund so they can attempt to fight the proposed MLU requirement. I think it would be the right thing to do.