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Oh yeah. I removed one and vowed never to remove another, I warned partners if I ever came upon one I was leaving it behind.

Nope. Shit happens.

I be down with checking it out the next time, let me know. Oh yeah, BTW you are an alien, latex WTF, I don't want to know.

I know what you mean man, I could see a couple of oz. weighing me down falling down the ice face i am trying to solo, yeah right . The weight savings is not worth the frustration trying to place them. Also because the way the hanger is set up on them and because I have seen them come off there is no way in freezing hell I would trust my life to a POS like that, give me a modern screw any day.

Nice relics Off_White. The only thing I have heard those Salewa screws are good for is placing as a fixed piece in soft sandstone and chalk cliff. And that drill, damn talk about carpel tunnel syndrone. No wonder back in the day the bolt were so far apart, who in there right mind would want to hammer in bolts with that set up.

Hey any kind of bolt if it looks like this or this

Hey JayB have you ever tried the Foot Fang monos. Damn those things really sucked ass. The front point was really long not necessarily a bad thing, but it always got hung up on things, the back points were so far back and too close together (closer together than the Switchblades) that it felt like you could never get stable. Check 'em Hey skyclimb why the .4 Camelot? I have never used them, nor do I need one, but I can't see anything wrong with them. cj001f, where did you find those relics damn, they look like they look like they were made in the dark ages. Are you sure that is climbing equipment? What is the red thingy, is it some type of rigging device, I have never seen that one before? Mike, I have checked out those FROG things out, but they seem sort of stupid. Have you used one?

Everybody is talks about what to buy, how about what to steer clear of. What type of climbing equipment had you wished you never bought or think has to be the dumbest and most useless piece of shit you have ever seen. Also why do you think your least favorite item is a POS. Here is my vote for POS award These things I had bought because I thought they were such a great deal. Man at $12 a screw how could you go wrong. Well I didn't know that these had detachable hangers (seriously I had two of them where the hanger came right off) or that it would take about 20 minutes to place a single screw cause the teeth weren't sharp at all and there were no threads on them to speak of. Ok I fixed the link, doh!

That's not being a nice hippie, calling people loser. What wrong Dave upset about getting older.

Anyone from the Seattle area planning on going that wants to carpool up?

Fuck yeah nice pics of the weekend freshies. Damn RUMR, never seen such a big baby, it snowing, the PNW sucks, it raining. Damn dude, how are you going to survive the next 6 months? It sucks to be you.

Yo happy birthday d00d!!!!! Time to get your on now.

One of my favorites is when a passenger falls asleep in the car, to drive towards the shoulder and hit wake-up bumps and scream out loud. It usually wakes them pretty damn quick, just make sure you know how to perform CPR. On the old adjustable bic lighters we use to pop the metal tab off and crank the fuel way up so that the flame is about foot high. Then place the tab back in place. When they light it usually scares the shit out of them or burns their hair. Another good one is to make the gas igniting sound (whooooffff!) when some one is trying to light the stove.

I thought that the Aminitas weren't ones to mess with? Am I wrong, anyone have any experience with them?

Well I probably don't need to, I am exposed enough to virus strains used in the flu vaccine forulation enough where I have probably already developed antibodies to the three strains that are predicted to be responsible for most flu cases this year. Just because you get a flu vaccine doesn't mean you can't get the flu. Flu vaccines are formulated with 2-4 (usually 3) of the most likely strains that will be most prevalent. There are several other strains that could be present in any population. Some people do have a reaction to the flu vaccine, from injection site soreness to flu like symtoms, hardly ever does someone contract one of the strains that they are vaccinated for. The vaccination can either be a subunit of the virus or can be "killed" virus. There are several techniques that are used to do this, Dru the use of mercury is one that I have not heard of, and if it was I am sure that the amount of mercury that one is exposed to is so minute it is pointless to even think about it. I'll to look into that, though. Most deaths from the flu are because of people who have a compromised immune system, or they either ignore the symtoms in hopes that they will get better soon. Most of the hype is created by the media, just to have something to scare people with. Americans who watch the news are entertained by threats.

Does any of you know about finding the right kind and want to take a newbie hunter and gather out? Please PM me, it is driving me crazy seeing all over the place and not knowing which ones are the fun ones.

Here is one for all you that like to go back forth about politics. Slap the hell out them fools.

Yo, I am in the same boat, just started running, been doing short loops like in Discovery and St. Eds, but want to start doing some longer runs. With this rain upon us, I am up for going for a run, when I can't climb or ride.

So true. Then if it is raining there is Hell Hole and Bridge Wall, the Bridge Wall sucks though, staying dry is what it has going for it. Endless Wall is really nice, but Summerville it is my favorite.

If I had one I'd loan it to you. Definitely hit up the Summerville Lake area, that is by far one of my favorite places there. Have fun.

Yeah damn right, good news, good news!!!!!

Dude, it was lot more than that, actually, at one point in less than one month more than 500,000 were brutally slaughtered. Still the UN didn't think that was a genocide for some reason. Luckily thing are quite a bit more mellow and there isn't any fighting going on in Rwanda right now. The ROC is a different story.

Ok, ok, ok, ok.....for all you guys don't know your geography (actually I had to look it up too), it is in Eastern Africa right below the equator (about as you can get from the Poles). It small country about the size of Conn. It is near Uganda, Kenya, and Tanzinia which all have good climbing from what I understand. Also while I am out there I would like to get to South Africa and Morroco. BTW good one Dru, especially since my name is K K K k ken.

I am moving to Rwanda in January. I don't think it was in a tread of any sorts, I think most of the Seattle PC crew know just from me talking about it.

I couldn't cause couldn't get over my fear of heights. Took two years, but I did it. I had a hard time even getting my ass up a 6 when I first started. My first 8, on the N.shore out here took me probly 1 1/2hrs to claw up 80 some feet. I hated rock climbing after that. Vowed to never do it again. Didnt touch it for a little over a year. Ice was best anyway! My grades increased as I began climbing with people who I had fun with, helped me challenge myself, but never let me get in over my head. Btw, Ken, THAT ROCKS! You know its not the fear of heights, its the fear of falling. My 73yr old neighbor kept insisting he was afraid of heights until one day I saw him literally hanging out his 3rd story window to clean it. The only thing keeping him from hitting the ground were his arms holding onto the side of the house. "Didnt that scare you?", I asked. "No...because I felt safe that I wouldnt lose my grip or strength". So it WASNT about the heights. it was all about falling. As soon as you were ready to trust the gear, your partners, and yourself the fear went away. Wow, that felt deep! I every once and a while I look back and laugh cause I still can't believe that I would freeze ten feet up and now I sometime feel more comfortable on a cliff than I do on flat ground. It really did change though when I started believing that the gear works the way it suppose to.