well, sounds like they aren't seasons campground types. i wasn't used to them either for awhile because i tended to do wilderness camping in the mountains. however, i do have sensitive hearing and i realized that campgrounds are one of those 'multiple use' areas, not a wilderness area. it'd be nice if people respected the post-10pm rule but they often don't (esp in Camp 4). thus, rather than make a scene i just bring ear plugs. problem solved.