glassgowkiss

there are a couple of guidebooks out there, i think only one in english. it's a large area, so know where you want to go. the best areas i think are Tre Cime Di Lavaredo, Marmolada, Civetta group. Torre Trieste has some cool climbing on it. Torre Venecia would be a good place to start. you can camp for free on the medows below the spires. be careful with the gear rip-offs, don't leave money or passport in the tent. On the medow below Tre Cime there is GREAT bouldering. for rainy days a visit to Erto - overhangs will leave you pumped for a week! Other areas worth visiting are Sella group, Toffana di Roses. Cinque Torri has some shorter routes. if you don't have a car bus or thumb works ok, but be ready to walk a bit. see you there at the end of july

getting paid for punching the clown only in america!!!!!

my point. you don't have such a possibility while reading guidebooks. on ice-alpine-mixed climbs conditions change. it's a part of the game. with guidebooks printed every about 10 - 12 years internet can be a grat tool. look for will gadd's web page or bc ice climbing page, where you can find info on newer climbs. what i am getting at: if people want to spray- fine. if i want to find a climb not described in a guide i want: 1 how to get there 2how long (aprox) it will take to do it 3what gear to bring 4how the route goes 5 how to get down alpine climbing should not serve you your climb on the plate- here it is... i am sure ther is going to be a flury of new climbs, a lot of FWA and FFA. it would be very helpful if you can just open a page, print out a deascription, go and do the route... i am not talking about TR's. I am talking only about FA, FWA, FFA, not about established climbs.. on these spray on... i am just talking about historical record.

wrong- check the galery, there a picture of my face

the door to the ohter post is open. there should be no reply possibility, just info, the rest is spray...

really - trying to find info on the web page like this is a real drag. 90% of the posts are pure spray. i think we need a seperate space for posting FA, FFA, FWA. names, dates, time, difficulty, gear, route topo or description, picture (if possible) and that is it. the rest can go to spray, where the spray-lords can duke it out. one post, topic closed take it to spray... ciao

this is a proposal for people running this web site. to cut a long story short- most of the posts on this web site should be posted in spray... there is also a differance between completing an established route, doing first free ascent, doing a first winter ascent and climbing a new route. there should be a space to post FFA,FWA and FA seperatly from everything else. Names, time, difficulty, gear, route description and a photo (if possible). Topic closed, so spray, no bullshit. People who look for information don't have to suffer reading through all the bullshit posted by spraylords. spraylords can do their pissing fights in spray.

any 12 year old single malt should do . in case of heavy activity 25 yeard old is your choice (spendy). for extreme use everclear.

yes, and if you take a jet to new zealand you can climb Heart of Gold (10 pitches WI5) in June!! slipstream is climbable in june (some years). these pics from asteroid alley- june 2- don't have to jet to new zeland. my comment was there is usually more ice early in the season in the rockies, since the climbs don't form from melt freeze, but from water sources pouring out of the rock. yes, there is a few climbs forming later on (like see your neighbors), but most of them- if they don't form by mid november, they don't form at all.

thanks jb for the photos. there is a lot more snow on this picture compared to the time of FA, so it's kind of hard to see all the features. but with the description of the FA party it should be really obvious. there is a vast number of new lines in the area to be climbed- mixed-alpine, ice- you name it. with a well broken trail it should be possible to do some of them car to car in a long day. i hope more people climb there and it becomes the Ben of N. Cascades.

i drew a line of the new climb on pyramid. when i get a larger file photo i'll try to do a better job. thanks jb. it's in the gallery- alpine

you're not going to learn about snow and avalanches on internet. just take an avalanche class or climb with people with more experience.

December? ice starts usually in october/ november. this year people were swinging tools by first week of october. no crowds, no snow and the roads are open- 20 minutes to whiteman, 1hr to stanley glacier headwall

04.03. east meets west according to dot web page. so when can we start driving?

Take it easy, finding climbing partners here is really not hard. Like I said, you'll be set as soon as you meet a few people at pub club. What information do you want? Did you do that search for Amber yet? pub club? you mean a bunch of drunk spraylords with 25% body fat

Hey glass gow kiss my ass! Why don't you go and make a positive contribution (besides your photos) and post your opinion on my Gear Critic thread hey sheepshager, not my problem your dick is small and your ego writes check your body can't cash. if you decide to take things personally - don't blame this one on me.

since most of the wankers posting here can't climb for shit- do yourself a favor. go to vertical world or stoned gardens and find some people to climb with. or go to squamish on a weekend, much nicer place then choss heap aka north cascades.

Who's on the short list for your booty call, then? since she is from eugine the question is: are your legs shaved? do you feel lucky, now do you punk?

oh burp- do you need a tissue? guess what- i actually put myself through the torture of reading this stupid thing you have posted. do you think i am so stupid? and even if it is someone who you know, so what. what it tells me she shouldn't be in the army in the first place. i could see someone who was drafted making points like that. but as far as i know nobody is forcing people to sign up for the service. so if you sing up and decide to do something don't bitch and complain about it. and what climbing has to do with the whole situation anyway ? matt- i tend to agree with your post. let's just hope next elections shrub monkey goes down the drain and the damage can still be somewhat undone. on the other hand people who put a lot of energy into anti- war protests- i wish you'd also demend that hussein was removed. this victim of the agression shit doesn't really jive with me either

i think if the climbing is a problem, then something else will be a problem, later on down the road, so i figure out it wouldn't last anyway. ciao bambina i'd say!

hey burp- your burp must really stink because your're so full of shit and the turd overflow if effecting your brain. didn't even bother reading your stupid story, after a couple of lines i decided it was too boring and probably written by a tv evangelist= rush dildo or whatever you call that propaganda fat fuck. the points are: 1. if you decide to start a war you do recon/inteligence work- something nobody did bother with 2. you bring enough fire power to do the job right and first try 3. you don't talk about special ops. why the fuck isn't he let irakis know where the ranges operate? if you have troops operating behind the enemy lines you don't go and blow your horn about it, now do you? so if you were in the army like you claim you'd know these things. no instead you were busy butt fucking your puffter buddies. role playing in the uniforms with your homo sex partners doesn't count for much in the real situation you cunt

this is turning out bad. first of all- as i predicted it will be months not days before it's over. shrub monkey fucked this one for good from day 1. first of all gets half of the europe pissed of at him, divides nato. second of all doesn't even bring enough fire power to do the job right- 4th infantry divission is leaving texas!!!it will be at least 3 weeks before they are combat ready. not to mention complete fuck-ups like mentioning special operation troops and their activity. this guy is a complete fuck up. wounded marines stated they were surprised that they were shot at???!!! none of his brilliant planners took one thing into acount- the situation is different from '91 war. it's one thing to extract invading army and another to take on an army in defensive position. prediction: 3 month at least and about 5000 (us/gb) dead wounded before baghdad is taken. WARSAW, Poland - Poland's defense minister scolded President Bush (news - web sites) and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Thursday for publicly describing the actions of Polish commandos in Iraq (news - web sites), saying the U.S. leaders shouldn't use the troops "for propaganda." Bush on Wednesday told U.S. troops at the Army's Central Command in Florida that Polish troops had secured an Iraqi oil platform in the Persian Gulf, while Rumsfeld praised the Poles' professionalism. But Jerzy Szmajdzinski said the country's troops in Iraq include members of the elite GROM commando special forces unit, and said Warsaw doesn't want information about their activities discussed. "It is not good when a politician — even if his name is George Bush or Donald Rumsfeld — talks about the actions of special forces," Szmajdzinski told Polish state Radio 1. "We are happy with the high grades given to Polish troops but we are not happy with their use for propaganda." More than two-thirds of Poles are against the U.S.-led war in Iraq, although the government has supported the United States and has approved the use of up to 200 Polish troops, including 56 GROM members.

From BBC web-page: 'Proof' of biological weapons found Coalition forces fear Iraq may use chemical weapons UK troops have found evidence "categorically" proving Iraq is ready to use chemical and biological weapons, Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon says. Mr Hoon said it had first become known from Iraqi PoWs that protective gear had been issued to troops in the south of the country. But he said fresh evidence turned up over the last few days had proved the regime's willingness to use weapons of mass destruction. Mr Hoon showed footage of British troops from the Royal Irish Regiment uncovering gas masks and protective suits, said to number more than 100, in a command post in the Rumaila oil field. now give me a fucking brake!!!!please show me any army in the world that would have chem suits and gas masks as standard equipment. This is pathetic. Now i am sure hussein didn't cook soups and stews for his troops in chemichal labs. but if you keep shooting your mouth of like this any credibility of the future finds goes out through the window....

and rubber shrink tubing too trask can give you helping hand if you know what i mean

To join the Spetnaz you must be offered an invatation From the office of special services in moscow. The requierments are as follows. 1. 15 years in service of any form in the russian military. 2. You must be able to complete the spetznaz obsticle course. 3. You must not be married. 4.You must have an IQ of 140 or more. 5.You must have combat experince (Does not have to be with the russian military.). there are others but theese are the ones i know of. so none of you will make it