minx

yes, they need therapy to explore their issues and a big group hug. then everything would be all wonderful with them. people are violent. war is violent. the issue is incredibly complex. this thread started b/c of the actions of one individual and has drifted off towards large societal issues. i don't believe there is one neat and tidy answer. i don't believe that the world is ever going to solve its problems without some armed conflict. i sure do wish it would. trying to simplify this issue on cc.com to good/bad yes/no is a bit trite for a group of people who generally seem to be at least moderately intelligent.

Say hi to Pink for me. he sends his love

there HAS been plenty of studies? Really, Minx? Rob - I am babysitting today. Don't start with me...i'm in charge of 3 children under the age of 12. I'm a little cranky!

This is true. quit moving in on my territory OW! i have a date with him too.

Kurt - I'm going to simplify and not do any research. Indvidual v. Group? Mob mentality. There's been plenty of studies done demonstrating that people will go along with crowd and do things they wouldn't do if left to making a decision as an individual. The Nazis are a fine example of that.

channeling gloria steinem these days? ehh...maybe. and that's the truth

the truth shall set you free, but first it will piss you off.

regardless of what the spray forum is or isn't... it may be fair game to take a cheap shot. its also fair game to call someone out on the cheap shot. = spray. people have been banned from spray for making personal attacks. spray is not without boundaries. they are far and wide but they are there. that comment wasn't personal but it was pretty tasteless. carry on

geez sobo...be careful. how long are ya there for. does this mean no summer climbing on the clearwater?

Don't you know anything? j_b would never hump the right leg... 8D and all i wanted was a group hug

Kev I've got to agree with Ak on this. it doesn't matter if its a war, conflict, occupation. it doesn't change what folks are dealing with in the aftermath. although we're all entitled to an opinion, i'd guess that in many ways Ak's perspective is a bit more educated than most of us.

dammit! I can't even kill myself right.

i've just been schooled by the cc.com faithful. i may just have to go kill myself now. *sigh*

dammit Rob. i'm OLD! I don't remember HS english let alone 4th grade language arts and I escaped college with a science degree. We really didn't write in "moods" very often. *sigh*

ummm...coldfinger Minx is singular therefore shouldn't it be "was"? sheesh...i join MEC and now G-Spotter is flirting with me. Maybe the courthouse folks needed a good spanking as kids?

1%...shoot i'd like to be teh 2.7% -3.6%

a new pack, a couple carbiners and a shirt. all on clearance. damn them!

i am now a member of MEC

shush...i forgot about cc.com and the cake thing since i normally don't post on my birthday. you don't want to have to email Jon to get unbanned do you? Nahh...Jon is President and Porter is CEO i think Timmy is AWOL...kinda like BOD of position I think . At best I'm the evil empress of sprayland. My banning services can be bought on a limited basis. I will ban any poster if they request their own bannination and provide a large check. Kurt keeps underbidding me though. So if you want a cut rate ban, PM him.

Coldfinger -- relax! i wasn't riled up by your comment. i thought it was sort of funny in an ironic sort of way. No offense to Kevbone but I didn't assume he created that title as a play on words. In fact, the implication didn't even a occur to me until you pointed it out. Now is the fact I didn't notice a positive sign or a negative one on the racism issue in this country? Obama's race did not even occur to me in this discussion until you pointed it out. Funny thing perspective...

whoa... that was awfully culturally/politically sensitive of you. i'm not sure that any of them, palin, santorum or obama have the common sense of a door knob. brain or not, its all in the application. if i have a rack full of brand new cams, nuts, biners and slings but i don't know how to use them then i'm still gonna get hurt

Rob just failed...deleting his post....FAIL! 111 - there are no words to express my disgust. forgiveness....i'm not sure. at least sobo gives good belay.

ahem! the rubber duckie is all mine. muffy is gonna have to get her own duck!

I think perhaps I'm naive but I don't think there is linear correlation one way or another. Circumstances vary from one situation to another. and that is what bugs the shit out of me with these types of arguments. the stats, numbers, and tables are all interesting but subject to interpretation. the causal link is always open for debate with socio-econo-anthro-polito-crapo-topics. there's not one cause and there isn't one answer.

i'm confused