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How much worse are keds than climbing shoes really?

I want to be perfectly about my response above. I don't think that climbers should ignore and not use improving techniquest and equipment for safety. I'm opposed to the snotty attitude of the original poster. It also should be said that teaching kids to hip-belay as a back up isn't inherently unsafe. During an incident with a gri gri at smiff that I happened at smiff when I was climbing with a group of friends, a hip belay was employed to protect the climber until we could switch the gri gri with an ATC. Glad that a few of us had been taught the hip belay. as for climbing in street shoes...it may not be the best for the rock but its not inherently unsafe. Don't take a holier than thou attitude and then be surprised when people don't rush to your side.

well Sobo..it kinda sounds like college. living in a little furnished 8X20 container. not bad.

i notice 2 glasses of wine. where is this guy's wife/gf?

i hate it when someone posts something; doesn't like the response and then cries foul. yes its cc.com. there are plenty of productive conversations. i learned to climb in....keds!!! oh the horror! there was a time when there was no such thing as sticky rubber. people climbed in street shoes and boots all the time. and even worse...i leanrned the hip belay before i learned anything else. my first belay device was an 8 that left me with lots of twisties in my rope. i'm pretty sure that i lived through both of those things. now please forget that i posted this b/c i don't actually climb

Its zombie spray now

oh geez sobo i thought you learned your lesson the first time you got married.

wait a minute? literacy is a requirement for posting on cc.com? noway....

well fu on you!

yep -- this ^^^^^^ take care of yourself. hope that it is a grand adventure and that you get to post a few updates here and there. eta: Kurt, OW and I are planning montly meetings at one of the area's finest establishments to plan the next attack on your avatar. just remember it could be assaulted for weeks or months before you even notice what we've done....but the rest of cc.com will have enjoyed it for quite some time...just sayin....

oh good grief put on your big girl panties and deal with it. love ya sobo get your butt back here so i can climbing in ID w/ya. the sawtooths and clearwater are calling

If he is complaining about slomo maybe we should rename him Hobo?

it does kinda look like SloMo

I wasn't sure but i know that those ducks aren't dressed right

Why is that duck pooping baby ducks?

what other two?? i think paranoia is getting the best of you. are you sure you should be going on this new assignment?

*snicker*

With the weather being so nice it seems like everyone was out climbing...like that's fun or anything. I'm sick of reading and hearing about all this climbing nonsense. Did you spray this weekend. TRs please. Work Safe TRs please.

well????? does she have permission

Archy and the cats have got to quit aiming their weapons at each other and then there will finally be peace in the middle east(ern) WA

fuck you biotch! go climb some stuff or something. this is the warm fuzzy spray and if you don't want have a group hug with a bunch of frat boys you're gonna have to move on.

I will verify that Sobo does refuse climb at vantage. I've invited him several times and he always refuses and tries to make me go to some random place in Idaho with mumblings about falling and rocks. I've tried bribary and blackmail to no avail. He'd rather have me post his nude climbing pics than go to vantage. Sobo is the reason I don't climb. Its all his fault b/c he won't go to vantage.

its never too early on your birthday! are you gettinng soft in your old age? happy birthday KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

The elephants are pretty awesome There have been some thoughtful parts of the conversation mixed in with the rhetoric.