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You said it. I didn't. Listen, I could come up with ten times the number of unjustified shootings in the same time interval, but I would be boring.

On this we agree, but perhaps for different reasons.

You've got it all twisted around in your mind, man. Most shootings by those other than peace officers are unjustified. Shootings in self defense are rare, which is why the media make a bid deal about it when it happens.

I think it could be the first documented case of cc.com induced personality change.

Hmmm... who said, "beck's the man! and i have work at 5:00 pizdec... i should go to bed...but spray takes precedence! g'night kids... good times! " Oh, that was Fence_Sitter. My bad.

Guy gets hit over the head with a bottle at a drunken party. Goes out to car gets gun returns to house and shoots guy. Calls it "self defense" because he was able to claim he was "protecting" his cousin who he thought was still in the house. Washington State: no "duty to retreat" = self defense. Other states: murder. Self Defense? Guy shoots another guy to death who he thought molested his son. Turns out the son made up the story. Oops, sorry dude. Not Self Defense Trask, you should thank God every day that you live in the great State of Washington.

A number of people have commented that they don't like the Neutrino for winter use because they are so small that it is difficult to clip the rope into them with gloved hands. How about on the other side of the draw? If you are clipping a screw or a wired stopper, does it matter so much where you don't have to open the gate with your fingers? I have only a few Neutrinos so I tend to use them in that manner.

Babnik, you sound very bitter, lately. What happened? Girlfriend left you? Dog died? Pickup truck broke down? Broken ankle? You sure ain't climbing.

I don't know about that: Payrolls Slashed for 7th Straight Month. I was fortunate enough to find a job after getting laid off, unlike many of the people that were laid off with me. There was an economist last year who was predicting a 1930's style depression for this year. Perhaps it's a reality. We should call it the Bush Depression.

Babnik, finally a thinking man.

The name was "Dil Doe". Look at it again. You've been had.

I get the sense that hiring is picking up. If you are job hunting or have stopped looking, now is the time to get serious and make some contacts.

Sounds pretty ballsy to lead the 5.8-5.9 crux pitch on a first trad lead. Good for her! You should have gone down the rap route that Toast and I described. Much less hassle involved.

Trask, as you know, self-respect is highly over-rated.

The bastards! Of all the gall. When I've got climbing to do.

After I bootied your piece, my partner told me your follower couldn't clean it because she was having a really hard time and I felt sorry for her. Describe it and the code on the biners and I'll return it to you.

You've got that right! Just in time. I was going to have to increase my job contacts to FOUR A WEEK to keep unemployment, just ask klenke.

It's hard to believe it's not a joke, but I think they are actually serious. Power tools are like guns, put them away when you are finished with them.

I feel sorry for the guy. Why the hell is everyone so eager to kiss his ass? Hell, there arey plenty guys as good as him around here. How about recognizing them, too? I did recognize two of them. Show me ONE other 19 year old climber who does what he does, namely hard winter routes. Get a clue.

More money Less climbing

From Colin: The future of NW alpine climbing is bright, very bright.

You got THAT right! The car was found by the way. Full of cigarette butts and beer cans. Even left their tools, the dip shits.

From Wayne1112: If you can conceive of it, you can do it. If you can do it, you can share it. From Sphinx: Even jerks need friends.

You are supposed to eat it Dru, not sit on it.

From Mattp: Better get your mountain facts straight before spouting off, or you'll get called on it (esp. regarding Darrington). From Trask: There is sex after 40, if not climbing. From Capt_Caveman: Cut the rope! From Dru: There's hope for those with multiple personalities. From Chuck: Get rid of those "deadly dogbone" draws. From AlpineK: There is no such thing as a "junk" tree species. From Jon and Timmy: Be careful what you start, you never know where it will go.