billcoe

Meanwhile, back on the hunt for the Dawg: oh oh, what is that up there? Have another one without my sights..... Hopefully I don't piss off any notable clowns on this site: or his buddie: This stuff is life and death evidently. ___________________________________________________________________ What we need is some bolting pics: Holy shot Batman: it can't be....NO! It mustn't be...A Dreaded Bolt! Holy crap, it is. Are they really thinking that the last 100 ' of vertical might go? That if the leader falls, the piece they have behind the loose flake can rip and a BOLT may save their lives? Can they really believe they can do such an act of ENVIRONMENTAL terrorism? OH MY LORD, THEY DO! Are they taking the thrill out of climbing by adeding a bolt to a new 2 pitch line! OMFG! They put in a bolt! On lead but with a drill! How dare they? OMG OMG OMG OFMG Ohh the termidity. Oh the humanity! Oh how can we survive as a civilization? Oh MY! AND THEY DIDN'T ASK YOUR PERMISSION FIRST DAWG. OMG OMGOMGOMGOMG OMFG!Those cocksu*kers.

we all agree with that sediment.

Except I don't see bolting as an environmental attack like he does. Why doesn't he see the huge developement projects, LIKE the new rest area in Yos, or the new buildings there as real environmental destruction is beyond me. And frankly, I see the need for the new rest area, I draw the line at needless new bars, pizza restaurants, stores and hotels in that specific national park, but the NPS justs ignore my thoughts.

have a nice trip btw

Now, I've run things like that, and been paid to do it. I know what real work is like. So not to seem like a hypocrite here like some people on this thread who clip bolts and then complain about it, let me say I'm fine with some of the big developments happening, but just out yourself up front and say "OK, it's about the money. That's why we're doing it. " Like when they replaced all the washed out roads on Rainer. All the bolts in the world do not add up to a speck on the ass of some of these huge construction projects which happen in your parks, like the one at Beacon that just put a brand new concrete bridge and road in for the boat ramp at Beacon. Huge invasive project.

BTW, I cannot for the life of me, really, cannot fathom why the NPS uses stuff like this When in the old days 2000 Chinese could get the job done without it. My last trip back from Yosemite I watched a TV show ranger criticizing installing bolts as this major gross invasion of the wilderness, while at the exact moment, 300 yards away they were paving a new rest area with things like this: Yet you cannot see the lil bolts, they are as if a speck of nothingness in a vast sea. Yet Mt Rainer and Yos get these huge development deals happening with and and new roads for all the cars that need easy access, like your car. Huh? But you know all that and have most likely stepped up to that plate to correct that gross injustice against humanity, ethics and the environment eh Don? Or is it just easier for you to be the Elmer Gantry or the Rock Police making crow noises?

No can do, too wet for a backho down there. However, once it dries out, we'll bet the lil' thing down there along with a DC9 cat we'll call "Pope" as this replica demonstrates. Between "the pope" and "the dawg" we should about have her handled so go ahead and go off to play with your little friends and we'll get the real work done while you boyz are gone.

Hey bill.....looks like your response is an imature taunt. Good for you See kev, that's me with the Fro back there, he keeps posting this thinking I'm ashamed of what I use to be but I'm not. So I was once a tall black man with big hair and now I'm a short white guy going bald? Don't bother me at all. haha Please excuse me as now I'm off to ebay for a drill............ an extra large Mastriati model....which will be named "Dawg".

Well someone showed up to the thread without their sense of humor. This seals the name for sure. Me and "Dawg" are going to roam the west with our white hats on a white stallion, bolting for the poor boltless out there, standing up for good against.....some loud ass humorless crows out there. Oh wait, hang on, the phone is ringing...... Damn, they cancelled my order for the drill cause it's on backorder. Crap. I'll bet it's cause everyone else is getting one. In fact, I heard that they give all new climbers one at the gym if you sign up for that deluxe learn to climb package, the one with the balloons and the cake. Crap, I bet I'm just at the end of a long swarming line of bolting wantobee N00bs. Maybe I need to buy that new cordless power scissors and make like Edward Scissorhands: Bastards, they took my "Dawg" away. Well, we'll see about this......they won't get away with this kind of sh*t for long. They don't even know who they are messing with here. ....to be continued.....

Don't poach the projected potential squeeze jobs I'm going to do this winter and you'll be fine. You will recognize them by the fact that there are currently no bolts there. yet ______________________________________________________________ BTW, Pope, I need one of these babies. Maybe we can co-ordinate this and I can do a demo of my new tool for you out this way. I think it's time for a change up pitch, so in the spirit of fun and friendship, when it gets here I will be naming my new tool "The Pope". Hmmm...maybe "Dawg" sounds better. .......or "squeezejob"....awesome name. Wait, no can do bubba, I have that slated to be a route name real soon right near where that "Please remove these bolts" sign is right now. Hey, maybe that the name of that new route those guys squeezed in there?

Full text: "Flaming squirrel ignites car in Bayonne by N. Clark Judd Thursday October 18, 2007, 7:29 PM It's Rocky the Frying Squirrel! A kamikaze squirrel fell from the sky and detonated a Bayonne woman's car yesterday, police said today. Lindsey Millar, 23, and her brother, Tony, 22, were both home Wednesday at about 12:45 p.m. when Lindsey's car suddenly started burning outside their 42nd Street home. Tony Millar said firefighters told them it was the work of a buck-toothed saboteur that had been gnawing on overhead power lines connected to a transformer directly above the 2006 Toyota Camry. "The squirrel chewed through the wire, was set on fire, fell down directly to where the car was," Tony Millar said. "The squirrel, on fire, slid into the engine compartment and blew up the car. "They're always coming around here, chewing through the garbage," he added. Tony Millar says his sister was fully insured. "It's something to laugh about once she has a new car," he said. "It's not funny yet." Police said there were no injuries -- except for the squirrel, that is, which is dead. The Millars' home is decorated for Halloween, complete with a tiny plastic tombstone on their front lawn. Tony Millar said the family will consider dedicating the tombstone to the squirrel, who was not named."

Bet it got a snow dump of unparalleled portion's today. Great memories of that place, use to think it was the bast place on the planet. Then it seemed to start getting wildly crowded about 1972 or so and I haven't been there hardly since except for a winter ascent or 2 of the N face of Jefferson. I remember being up there and stepping outside of my tent to pee at 2 am once, and seeing the stars bigger than I'd ever seen them.

I might be into a quick lap up the corner. What time you folks thinking?

[font:Arial Black]Bug you're a dick! [/font] Hope that helped.

I didn't think any big name climbers post here? Maybe it's Steve House? He posts here? Croft? Hmmm, probably Croft he's Canadian, thats about a 3 hour drive. That bastard!

Holy crap did I mis-call that or what? Today -10:30 am - 3000 foot level.

Currently "Voices Carry" Till Tuesday. How about just getting out in the snow today, I'm just back. Snows dropping to @ 2600 feet right now. Sticking too.

You skiing on rocks Jon? WTF? Still climbing season dude. You'll have to calm down for 3 weeks at least is my projection, probably 4, but bring the pics there eh? in case I'm wrong.

ps, everyone knows that I have more hair than that picture shows.

Heres the full post. This is why I said to do the trail on the far side by the other parking area where NO one parks! BUT EVIDENTLY NO ONE GIVES A FU*K WHAT I SAY OR THINK!!!!!!!!! btw, that trail is there, it needs to be made gentler. I am speaking from 35+ years of f*ing with such things, it would be easier to touch up the far side trail. Really! Trust me Letsroll, I'm not just blowing hot air -ask any one who knows me. Seriously. Peter: Kevbone would be a good dude to hang with here for you and he'll give good belay as well as an interesting running dialog. Really. He's a good dude and great company and the folks who give him grief about his postings on this site just don't know him. Joseph is someone else who you should contact to take a ride up Beacon too. Both of them have different real personnas that don't gibe with their online personalities. Joseph in particular, has facial expressions in person (like smiling) that do not get seen in print here. Bone in full on spray mode below with red rope bag, "Clif" warming up to belay me and we're in both full on geriatric mode FA of ... . I forget what those dudes named it....Jimmy O has a route list. Kev, Ujhan and I went and rap/cleaned your route off that we trashed. It was pretty clean...I took the right and he took the left. The route we did that day still needs to be cleaned and I will do it this winter when my other play areas are closed. Oh...Larry named it "Before the Storm", cause after I topped out and yelled down "off belay", he was down there dicking around fooooevvver, while I'm tied off to a fir tree watching this massive squall head right towards us from across the Colombia River. So I yell down to slow Ethel there [font:Arial Black]Hey dude, it's starting to rain up here." [/font] Larry yells back " [font:Arial Black]Yeah? It is down here too! [/font] Cracked me up! Ya gotta love the guy.

Well rather than just telling me what to do are you ready to put your money where your mouth is? I fully intend to work on the far side trail. I would love to have your help since this will be the first time for me. My schedual is about to open up with the end of cross country season and willing to meet you out there for ideas. My thinking I would practice on the closest trail to work out the bugs before tackling regrading the other. However I just got the fact that you would want that trail completely eleminated, I gather to eliminate traffic or restrict traffic to that of climbers only. I understand the thinking but don't think it will work now. Too many people have come that way rather from the farside and I think you would have a tough time eliminating that trail. When the farside is ready for traffic I am willing to give the nearside trail elimination a go. letsroll You drinkin wine too? I said [font:Arial Black]don't [/font]call me:-) Look, I don't promise much, but I'm about 100 percent deliverin on it when I do. If you need help, and you need advice, and you absolutely need ME, I'll be there for ya. But not for long, as I have worked on that trail, and when the flakes fly I'll be play'in in the snow with the lad and Ujahn: Like all the frikkan time. Sometimes we'll swing by here or Pete's to get a short burn for the arms when the legs are already Pwn'ed, but usually I'm ready for a nap after skiing. I have 4 hot pairs of brand new skiis in the basement. 4 (four) - can't.... not ......rip...arrrrhhhhhhrrg ! I'm not saying get rid of the existing trail. I'm saying that there are 2 (that's TWO) trails right now and that the far side one is the one that will drastically benefit the area, it needs NO wood or major supports or efforts, just needs to be graded better AND it will be easier to fix. Thats all I'm saying! Go look at the far side trail, have you even seen it? All will become clear. Good luck, and remember, do [font:Arial Black]NOT[/font] call me, unless you[font:Arial Black] really [/font]need me. It's like calling on Superman that way. Once you've tweaked the far side trail, everytime you roll down it you'll go ahhhhh! and feel complete.

NO WAY! NO WAY! Are you shitting us? F dude! Poor bastard must have hit the bottom. Having had unbelievable bad back pain I sympathize. In MY experience, MD's don't know SHIT about backs and necks but they can't bring themselves to out themselves and just proclaim their ignorance AND total stupidity on the subject. It's bad- they absolutely don't know jack shit but don't want to be thought of as blithering idiots ...but they truly are in this instance. Even a short time around them as they bluster and pontificate and a layman realizes how Friggan dumb MD's are in this area. In fact they are too f*cken stupid to realize how friggan stupid they are. Thats how bad it is and you almost pity them except they keep f*ucking people like your friend up for life due to their stupidity and ignorance. Cortizon shots? Chrrrisst! God they're arrogant dumbasses. [font:Arial Black]LAYTON? [/font] Where are you? Sh*t, where is the dude? Dudes posting about womens clothes right now I'll bet. Link for important info on sizing womens clothing I'd defiantly explore my options but #1 on the list would be calling Dr Mike Layton or someone like him. That's exactly what I would do, F*ck the corizone shots, don't get crazy! I speak from personal experience. MD's don't know shit. Treat the cause - not the symptoms. Layton just graduated and started running a ad on CC.com on the front page if you want to contact him. The guy who brought me out of back pain hell retired and 3 chiros later I learned that not all are created equally. But: thats where I'd be. Christ dude! ...Good luck, it's got to be bad for your buddy. I speak from one who had extreeeeeeme pain, MD's suck, start with a chiropractor. I'm serious. Really. Good luck.

Do it! You will not get avied on, you will have a good time. Dress warm. Be in condition. McKenzie pass hold a special place in my heart. Many of my now long gone relatives would meet and camp. You might plan a day trip or two to see how you are as partners first. Have fun!

No There will be no poaching of rapbolted lines with fair, trad, clean or other means before I get er done! This Cathedral shall be done top down with closely spaced bolts and 30M rap points so you can rap with a single rope and it will be a wonderland and a playland and a Gothic Rock land. Not just that but as you can see in the pic, there are plenty of pinnacles which you can tie a sling on and rap off sans bolts. You can, however, come along because: A) You can ropegun the 11 - 12 - and 5.13 hard lines which includes all the window areas and the gargoyles I can't get up -which btw is not because I am old and 20 lbs overweight. B) You are good company, honest and fun. C) hmmmm - as yet to be named D) after another glass of wine E) Side note: No running away faster than me if the authorities show up cause I feel they should all be rounded up and shipped to Iraq rather than sit here and manage me and nice folks like me who don' want to be, nor need to be "managed". F) No ice tools will get punched into the stained glass windows of the belfry while one is humming "Stairway to Heaven" to oneself. G) You can bring the monster drill, extra batteries, lots of hardware like @ 200 1/2 diameter bolts and hangers and extra bits. Sorry hound, but thats just how the couchmaster rolls

Ivan, I took care of it last year. Top and bottom. That tree Kev and those folks yanked down was re-bushing and I nuked it. I will say that the top needs to be hit with roundup again. That is, if we can get permission from "Clif" who doesn't want to pull it, but doesn't want to have it sprayed by anyone else. This is why I said to do the trail on the far side by the other parking area where NO one parks! BUT EVIDENTLY NO ONE GIVES A FU*K WHAT I SAY OR THINK!!!!!!!!! It's like talkin to my kids that way. Wait, they at least do what I tell them. btw, that trail is there, it needs to be made gentler. I am speaking from 35+ years of f*ing with such things, it would be easier to touch up the far side trail. Really! Trust me Letsroll, I'm not just blowing hot air -ask any one who knows me. Seriously. Peter: Kevbone would be a good dude to hang with here for you and he'll give good belay as well as an interesting running dialog. Really. He's a good dude and great company and the folks who give him grief about his postings on this site just don't know him. Joseph is someone else who you should contact to take a ride up Beacon too. Both of them have different real personnas that don't gibe with their online personalities. Joseph in particular, has facial expressions in person (like smiling) that do not get seen in print here. Bone in full on "TM Herbert" spray mode below with red rope bag, "Clif" warming up to belay me and we're in both full on geriatric mode on a FA of ... . I forget what those dudes named it....Jimmy O has a route list. Kev, Ujhan and I went and rap/cleaned your route off that we trashed. It was pretty clean...I took the right and he took the left. The route we did that day still needs to be cleaned and I will do it this winter when my other play areas are closed. Edited to add...Larry named it "Before the Storm", cause after I topped out and yelled down "off belay", he was down there dicking around fooooevvver, while I'm tied off to a fir tree as the rain is starting while watching this dark massive squall head right towards us from across the Colombia River. So I yell down to slow Ethel there [font:Arial Black]Hey dude, it's starting to rain up here." [/font] Larry leisurely yells back " [font:Arial Black]Yeah? It is down here too! [/font] Cracked me up! Ya gotta love the guy.