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Sure thing and agreed - have you seen the Sibyl Edwards thing Ivan? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds link added

LAWSUIT ON! - Like the vampire that keeps rising form the grave, this story looks to have some spark yet. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27501.html "ACORN filed suit today in Maryland against conservative filmmakers James O’Keefe, Hannah Giles and conservative Web site Breitbart.com for secretly taping the organization’s employees at its Baltimore office. In the complaint, ACORN alleges that the filmmakers entered into the organization’s offices in July with a “hidden camera and microphone” and taped employees Tonja Thompson and Shera Williams. Both employees are listed as plaintiffs on the complaint, filed in the Circuit Court for Baltimore City. The crux of the lawsuit centers around a Maryland law which makes it illegal to tape someone without their consent – ACORN is alleging O’Keefe and Giles did so. ACORN is asking for $500,000 in damages to be awarded to each of the employees filmed by O'Keefe and Giles, and ACORN itself wants $1 million in damages. Breitbart.com, one of the suit’s defendants, is run by conservative activist Andrew Breitbart, whose Web site BigGovernment.com first posted most of O’Keefe and Giles’ videos. Breitbart has appeared on television with the filmmaking duo, and has a content-sharing relationship with the Drudge Report."

Nice find Prole....the next page, if Reich had written it, would be worrisome indeed.

That's too much for a 50 meter rope, especially a Petzl rope. Red, 10.3mmx50m Red, 10.3mmx50m (13 of 19 left) Blue, 10.3mmx50m Blue, 10.3mmx50m (13 of 16 left)

.....the more things change the more they stay the same...?

I'll try again. 2 short versions: Same-same, but different. -or- Same as it ever was... ...better?

Here's something we can both agree on. The "we're not filling the bill" part.....maybe not full agreement as we can do better, but everything else, same page. It's one of the reasons I vote no on every measure which will change the state constitution, no matter how good it sounds. So I know that officially makes me a cranky old fuck...so what? "Just say no", it's a screwy slogan that finally works in this application. Bet we agree on this as well: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/910042/Climbing_Benediction#Post910042

At least you post under your real name..... ___________________________________________________________________ I've been around long enough to know that this is the way the "Loyal opposition" works and always has. Republicans (maybe not Eisenhower) have similar critics and criticisms. Ask anyone named George Bush......

At least he has the courage to use his real name. ________________________________________________________________ My thoughts are that anyone who does this kind of thing to a Census worker, obviously is an extreme dumbass and isn't aware that at the root of our political system, we need to determine who lives where for apportionment reasons. This kind of random violent thing is beyond stupidity, and is condemned by all in our society equally except for a few toothless goobers too stupid or mean to be a factor in the discussion.

Me either as I have some rock (in an public area *cough cough*) that I want to jackhammer....and I will, so no reason for me to move right into a glass house and start tossing rocks.

Well, since you keep posting on these Beacon threads Lance, we could have made you an honorary Beacon Wanker: but you still climb too good to get into this crazy Wankfest. Maybe later when you're old and fat as you'd fit in better with the rest of us spray cube keyboard warriors.....jus' sayin' is all...

Hot Lesbian motivational posters. Good stuff. http://www.cityrag.com/main/2009/09/lesbian-motivational-posters.html Some dude is probably makin this stuff up:-) I don't think it has the official Lesbian stamp of approval. ________________________________________________________________ Since this is a climbing site, here's some Cathedral Formation pics from the weekend at Gothic Rocks of me on a solo FA of The Old Witch pinnacle and Ujahn doing the new pitch Adam, Ujahn and I added to Lava Tube (2nd pitch). Since Ujahn and I were both wearing red/blue helmets, to tell us apart, he's the thin one skirting the moss:-) The Old Witch profile.

Ted Kaczynski?

THANK YEW THANK YEW THANK YEW PETER! With this extra info I fully expect to be able to send my sweet sweet solo project this weekend. If I survive: some possible route names are "Bangers Delight", "Around the World to the Top", or "In, Out and Up".

Why do I think this will turn into a stay on trails/environmental destruction discussion ? .......in 3....2....1...

I hope that your aren't yielding just cause folks get old! Look at me, I don't know shit. Gratuitous last week from the boat ramp pic.

Opps, chance for a picture, maybe I should replace my words above? After the FA we went back for a 2nd lap although it's not clear why. Joseph on the first 2nd ascent of the The Third Rail. JH had quite a good lead on it. Very solid in 100 degree heat. I think for the FA, JH had his shirt off, and I could almost see the sweat dripping off as he got to the crux up there. Ujahn Davisson picture. Hey, do we have a grass growing enterprise happening here or what? I had Ujahn take a pic of the 1st piece of pro, like to share that too:-) From the 2nd ascent, I didn't get any pics of the 1st, too busy sweating. _____________________________________________________________ Hey Nate: don't know why, but this is a damn good thread....so far:-) Ha ha ! There is still time I suppose!

Thanks for looking Nate. Maybe The Third Rail is 2 columns over Joesph?

This is from Tom Higgins on the supertopo thread discussing the late Frank Sacherer. A reminder to all of us to treat others the way we want to be treated, for soon, all too soon, our time to pass will come as well. Then what have we left? What is our legacy? Higgins last line is a good summation. This is what the internet should be, great discourse on Frank Sacherer there from those who knew him. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=268647&tn=0&mr=0

Rammstein, the German metal band, has some new video pornography, don't fire it up at work. Not really good music but the slightly better than mediocre Porn carries it enough to keep it from being horrid. Think of it as an innovative combo platter that could be improved upon if you added a few extra spices or changed up the main dish. http://visit-x.net/rammstein/

I believe that the bottom line for all labor in this country is that your value, as labor enters a world market, is going down. It doesn't matter if you are a highly trained Aerospace engineer or working at the 7-11. Everyone is going to get hit in our lifetime. The time frame may span years, but you will see it. Union or no union. Some professions, like teaching and the medical field will lag, but eventually, they will see this as well. The effect will be mitigated and offset somewhat by price declines due to increased productivity vs underlying price pressures as it relates to the demand and availability of raw materials. ie, your future competition isn't going to be Union or non-union as much as it will be Indian/Chinese/Malaysian/Indonesian. So hold on brothers, it's a rough ride ahead. That's my view.

I don't know what it is....possibly a paper bag tossed off the tourist trail as it's close to directly under it.....although we've been having high winds out there...it doesn't appear to be on a climbing route, so it's not a haul bag.

I was at the Boat ramp Sunday and didn't see it until I saw the pics just last night. BTW, it's not mine.

I remember. Hugh, what people are thinking is that you need to stop being such a prick by calling everyone else assholes (like this post) and post more trip reports. Bug had a real concern. He's being nice and reaching out here, so don't call him an asshole OK, it's fucking offensive. (spoken in a Miss Manners voice) Maybe we should be taking this over to cafe sensitivo?

That's all.