RobBob

Dwayner is a leg-puller and he makes witty posts. His trolling keeps him catching the same fish, which is funny too.

Dwayner

I agree OW, if ya wanna bash somebody about this, bash the administration and the media. The girl isn't the villain here.

Neither Jackson nor Sharpton has taken public responsibility in their lives by holding mid-level office, etc. Instead they have been sideline loudmouths whose MO is to stir up negative feelings. I can't tell you how many times Jackson has shown up at factories, for instance, to stir up workers prior to a union vote. j_b brings up an interesting subject about the millions of slaves brought to the Americas. What is left out of our perspective of this part of history is that a relatively small percentage of these slaves were brought to the United States. From memory (I don't have time to look it up), the US received roughly 500,000 slaves, and Europe received 400,000 slaves, while the Carribean received 5 million and South America likewise. Hell, listening to US and world commentary, you'd think that 90% of all slaves were brought to the US. It's time this bullshit stopped, as it only serves to foment more "victim" mentality and more devisiveness.

you can thank me later for this

Here's our president, taking counsel from Sec. Rumsfeld

I cannot believe that he wasn't dispatched at the scene of the crime.

don't let the world turn you into Mrs. Mean Spaghetti, Dr. Flash!

I troll in deep dark places for those things...

getting deep in here

It's Gerald Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerald, in the flesh

some statements are obvious to the point of being idiotic...pardon me for making the jump to believing you are an idiot for making the statement...I take it back.

position is important

Why do I keep seeing this 'Clint' crap? Erik

bobbyperu is actually iain's avatar

The environmental impact of eating and shitting is gigantic, idiot.

Why don't ya ask a salmon farmer? Seriously, read the article in The Economist. Try to keep an open mind. BTW, regarding the use of industrial fishmeal and oil, the annual harvest of that fishery has been the same for eons, and virtually all types of aquaculture are undertaking research to move to more-vegetable based diets, according to the article. Just eyeballing your BS-link, I know enough to know that tilapia, catfish, and carp don't use the equivalent of .3 lb of industrial fish in their diet...they are primarily herbivorous. ...which leads me to ask, are you one of those people who eat animals but don't have the heart to kill them?

Okay, I decided to go back and look at Jim's link and point out some obvious spin items. I could spend a week, it's so full of it, and I'm not a salmon farmer. It repeatedly states bland facts as some sorts of accusation, in a manner that only the dumb or the already-a-choir-member could get worked up about. 3 quick items about this biased link: 1. It is sponsored by Salmon Nation, some kind of wild salmon and Indian promo group. 2. it talks about astaxanthin as if it is a drug, when in fact it is the main carotenoid responsible for the orange color in salmon, whether wild or farmed. It mentions in an accusatory manner that buyers use a color wheel when grading farmed salmon, when in fact buyers use this color wheel in wild salmon also. (Wild salmon varies in color, and some of you may have been treated to wild King salmon that is white in color. Tastes good but doesn't look as good.) 3. It states that a "near collapse of pink salmon runs" in BC are being blamed on salmon farms in the area. I just received a trade article this morning that talks about the record pink salmon run occurring in BC at the moment, and how it is maxing out the industry's capacity to process it. I could go on and on, but what's the use?

I be scrambler Rob...you be a SUV-stickering knob.

Er, read my first post again, Jim. All I said was this was an issue to get totally informed about, because there is a lot of politics behind it. You took that and worked your way to "I've changed my mind, I'm against it." Hell, I could go through that page you linked, and point out how the meanings have been tweaked in a lot of those quotes cited. Why bother? I'm not Goat, and I'm not a salmon farmer. You're the guy who gets all worked up, not me, bud. And you're the guy who makes personal cracks about people's climbing when they disagree with you, just like you did the first time we disagreed .... and like you just did again.

If you care about trace amounts of drugs, then I would stay away from just about any animal raised in China or SE Asia, whether from land or sea. Now that testing is so sensitive at low levels, the EU and our government are finding trace amounts of banned drugs like Chloramphenicol all the time. That's because of a bad combination of mom & pop uneducated farming procedures and 'mystery mixes' of drugs available in their markets.

Hmmm...the communist attitude comes through. In fact you are wrong---as far as I know there is not a salmon farm in the world that is not permitted and regulated. The ones off the coast of Maine have been regulated, fined, and forced to discontinue. And your link is not the WSJ, it is a page slamming salmon farming. If you are talking about the WSJ quote on flavor profiles, again, it depends on what you get from whom and what time of year it is. Same goes with wild. Jim, if it were up to you, farming on land or water would not exist. You would let everyone starve, so that you could enjoy the World Park.

Love my Cloudveil softshell jacket. Only the color sucks.

come to think of it, it looks like it was taken in Colorado

I was on the road yesterday, and missed Jim's "salmon troll." Everybody needs to read past the hardline doctrine on this issue to understand it. I'm not a salmon farmer, but my work is close to both aquaculture and wild-catch fisheries. The majority of farmed salmon eaten in the US is in fact Atlantic salmon raised in the Pacific----off the coast of Chile. And this issue is greatly politicized due to the wild fishermen's belief that farmed salmon hurts their market rather than helps it. It is a trade war, complete with an anti-dumping suit that was filed against Chilean producers, that backfired when the Chileans had to stop advertising and instead spent their ad money on legal defense (in the end they won). There is a great article (actually 2) in the latest Economist just out. It does a good job of providing a balanced view of aquaculture, and notes that while the environmental history of particularly shrimp farming is checkered, the fact is that production improvements are being made with comparatively rapid speed. Well-managed aquaculture produces great products, and needs to be a key part of controlling world over-fishing, which is much harder to control from a legal perspective. Don't just blindly take sides on this issue. I love fishing and seafood as much as anyone I know. I feed my wife and kids salmon once a week. Because I know which to buy when, I buy both wild and farmed. Both are great for them, full of Omega-3s. Salmon...mmmmmmmmmmm!