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Lots of options. Examples: http://www.evergreenhiker.net/skykomishfcss.htm I'd stay on the west side in late August. Preferably where berries are abundant.

I don't think you'll find many who believe that doping in sport is ok, especially considering its effects on less than very elite levels (youth in particular)

but better than most packboards used by humans over the last millennia

don't feed the troll

The public has been following the elite races of cycling for a long time and I don't see it changing.

I love cycling. I care.

more personal attacks from the service goon

it takes a special moron to not realize there is a crisis about food. Just to pick an example, nobody but those spending lots of money or growing their own, can insure the safety of the food they eat.

The food crisis is about more than obesity so you don't have to be a putz and dismiss the safety issues around GMOs and other industry practices.

commercials just help the rock get rolling down the mtn - doritoes pretty much sell themselves - do you deny that humans, bugs and everything else alive tend to find the path of least resistance, that cheap and easy, however suspect the content might be, is awful damn tempting to a big old chunk of the population? No, Doritoes do not sell themselves as the need for advertising shows. Without acculturation and massive advertising, people would resort to many types of food to address the needs that Doritoes are supposed to fulfill. Some of which would be nutritious, others not so much, but we wouldn't be facing a junkfood based obesity crisis.

being laid back isn't really an option when winning the biggest race (and pretty much only that race) every year demands so much single minded preparation.

I don't know that is an accurate statement since Festina in 98. Tour organizers have taken huge PR hits mostly thanks to their own exposing of doping and I suspect it isn't for no reason. you sound like the French during Armstrong's reign at TdF. Although you left out that Armstrong was the first specialist to gear his entire season around one race.

it's not clear to me that it wouldn't lead to a more open race or that we'd notice the difference in performance.

Right, the soccer mom jumping the curb with a SUV that looked like a tank charging into Iraq looking for WMDs was a literal interpretation of human nature.

'cuz history's so full of successful examples of changing human behavior? because commercial advertising (propaganda) doesn't change human behavior?

so obese people who go hungry are obese because they binge when food is available? or are the obese ones the fraction of the pop that doesn't go hungry?

lame. Either you acknowledge there is an obesity and food secruty crisis or you don't working and keeping house and kids are at least 2 jobs. Do you have 2 jobs? people on a budget don't shop at whole foods So? perhaps it is time to address what makes them behave that way.

false. Acculturation isn't a choice. It results from the reality created by commercial TV.

With $5 I'll cook you a $20-30 restaurant meal but you keep missing that it requires time, knowledge and some degree of economic security to put it all together on a regular basis.

$66 isn't going to be enough at the fast food outlet the study likely compared averages but people on a very tight budget don't shop at average supermarkets.

The ID is the place for cheap foodstuff, but there are still people who need help in the ID.

It is as cheap if not cheaper to cook your own food from scratch, but economic security is a strong component of stable living.

It's a crisis for almost everybody because the quality of the food supply is becoming worse and it is often unknown. There are whole classes of product like meat or GMO foods for which accurate information, and regulation is completely inadequate.

there may be a lot less emotion in love than we think.

Food is central to people's lives. Getting the resources to those who lack purchasing power in urban landscape should be a priority. I believe that p-patch programs (for example) are some of the most successful urban programs throughout the developed world. These populations have to reclaim control over the direction their lives is taking, and food is as likely a place to start, especially if there are few jobs around.