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short on words? You could at least say a sentence of what you think these graphs mean. Your first graph agrees partly with E Warren's findings insofar health care, child care, and transportation (2nd car for the 2nd wage earner), regressive taxation, and mortgages costs have gone through the roof in the last 30years whereas food and consumption items like clothes, tvs, etc .. have gone down in cost. The following is warren's conclusion: "The upshot is that two-income families often have even less income left over today than did an equivalent single-income family 30 years ago, even when they make almost twice as much."

sample this: top ramen 10 cents a pack. throw in a few veggies and an egg....whoa! healthy power food for less than a big mac! if you wanna make a difference, spread the news. good one and cheap too, although one can cook quite a bit for under 3 dollars a plate.

let them go to seed and you won't need to buy more. kale is my fav, especially with beans and a good sausage.

There's a farmer's market parked right in the middle of mine. we'll need a larger sample to reflect an average state of affair.

why is it that we have to argue so much with self-proclaimed liberals in these pages to establish basic facts like the reality of food availability or the effect of advertising and dross mass culture on "free will"?

huh? you seem to have hitched on part way through.

where is your intellectual honesty? So open up a fruit stand in White Center and STFU already. white center is probably fine (at least the old downtown taken over by recent Asian immigrants), but the issue is you have no fucking idea what the inner city of your own country looks like

why is it that some of you like to show themselves regularly under such poor light? I mean, if anything, try at least to pretend you are interested in getting at the truth so you don't look like some shifty shyster who'll peddle any and all horseshit because it makes you feel good.

where is your intellectual honesty?

and then there is j_bot who can do endless internet searches from his basement. despicable POS who resorts to ad-hom when his argument suck, which is all the time

"Accessing healthy food is a challenge for many Americans—particularly those living in low-income neighborhoods, communities of color, and rural areas. In hundreds of neighborhoods across the country, nutritious, affordable, and high quality food is largely missing. Studies that measure food store availability and availability of healthy foods in nearby stores find major disparities in food access by race and income and for low-density, rural areas." The Grocery Gap or Who Has Access to Healthy Food

but hey, one "knows his city" and another one "lived in poor hoods so he knows" ...

sigh ... "After conducting further research, Gilliland and his coinvestigator Kristian Larsen learned that other cities in Canada, as well as cities in the UK and the United States, also suffered from "food deserts." The term food desert was reputedly first used by a resident of a public sector housing scheme in the west of Scotland in the early 1990s. According to Larsen, a food desert is "a socially distressed neighborhood with relatively low average household incomes and poor access to healthy and affordable food." Food deserts are also often served by a surplus of convenience stores and fast food restaurants. Numerous academic publications and government reports in various countries have been written in recent years that suggest food deserts may damage public health by restricting the availability and affordability of certain foods that may benefit health, such as fresh fruits and vegetables. These reports have influenced several policy recommendations in the UK and the United States designed to promote adequate retail provision of food." http://www.esri.com/news/arcnews/winter0809articles/inner-city-population.html

Let us know when your meds take effect.

That is clearly false. Also note that having to travel to buy food demands adequate transportation and time.

from the wayback machine on page 2 - 68$/week for a family of 12 - you think none of these items or the american equivalent are beyond being obtained by the vast majority of americans, poor or not? the fact of the matter is these people in the picture aren't American, and if they were they wouldn't be representative of the population we are talking about.

indeed, hopeless...

maybe its your own reading skills in question? said item is a silly stand-in for good, high-quality food, exactly what you want, and in the case of latte, particularly prized by folks who fancy they've figured the whole fucking world out so you claimed that my solution was advocating the poor buy overpriced unnecessary items favored by yuppies, in other words my reading skills aren't in doubt. As it turns out, I don't drink lattes and I obviously wouldn't spend that much money on coffee, organic or not. I brew my own, thank you.

if you were a magic 8-ball, this definitely would one of your more constant readings come on, you claimed that organic latte or whatever silly stuff was what I wanted for the poor my guess is the obese suffer tremendously from being large. I don't think you are heartless, I think you are wrong to claim the poor have a choice to avoid junkfood.

You're so full of shit. "Die in short order"? Yeah, they are dropping like flies. One bite of a dorito, and boom, they collapse in a pulsating mass of junk-food-toxin-induced spasms. one bite of a dorito is "a steady diet of junkfood"? Back to reading school for you. Naw, you are hopeless ..

quit the strawman crap. The ability of people to feed themselves properly is a priority issue, not only in term of having enough to eat but that it is also safe and doesn't cause them to die in short order (like any steady diet of junkfood is sure to do) you think the obese are happy (or happier than if they weren't obese)? dude, you ought to spend time in an obese body because you are being delusional.

Yours isn't a summary, it's one sided spin commonly found on regressive think tanks. Among other things, what also makes the USA attractive again for low wage manufacturing is because OUR real wages and ability to defend what we have are decreasing (stagnating is a misnomer). Any which way one looks at it, the transition from a would be high tech service economy to low wage manufacturing heaven cannot be good for most of us. As to the benefits of neoliberal globalization, they have to be balanced by the numerous drawbacks it caused.

article that leaves no doubt that something HAS to be done, even pepsi co knows it, but Tvash apparently read it sideways and came up with the opposite conclusion.

No, I said "PRETEND civil liberty advocate". Libertarian regressives love to gargle about liberty while they stamp on the neck of the destitute.