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spare us your bullshit. one, i don't support chavez but i certainly don't support taking him down and 2) you have no evidence of drug trade liar. i don't support conservative religious groups. i don't believe in real politics. i do however recognize the right of palestinians to a homeland. and who is going ot believe your assertions without evidence? moron! let me repeat: i support the right of every peole to autonomy and a homeland (including jews). i don't support reactionary religious groups in the ME or in america (or anywhere). I am consistant in my beliefs! i believe in representative democracy based on a mixed economy. again resorting to outrageous lies. you are a little man PP. shame on you.

i am tired of your Piss Poor lies. you accused me of supporting drug smugglers and islamofascists whereas it's exactly what you have been doing for the past however many years. don't forget you guys funded and armed the islamofascists (bin laden and taliban) and the extreme right wing goon squads in latin america, and they were all drug runners. so piss off, asshole!

you are a moron for believing anything that comes out from anywhere close to rumsfeld. i'd hope it'd be abundantly clear by now. on top of which, you are also a liar and a hypocryte who supported every unsavory goon squad in central america and the far east whenev4er it was politically expedient to your politicals goals. do we really need to talk about nicaragua and the murderous drug running contras during the 80's, the drug trading colombian paramilitaries up to the present, the drug smuggling women raping islamofascists of afghanistan (taliban and bin laden) or the opium smuggling hmong in laos in the 70's? spare your bullshit for freeperland!

where? did you even read the article you moron (not that most of what you link to would have any credibility anyway) what a clown! do you ever do anything but smear progressives? it must be the 36% approval rating for bushie boy that has you all worked up. heh?

in this case it's even more crackpot than that. he has forgotten how we gave stinger missiles to the islamofascists to take commie aircrafts out of afghan airspace

isn't it JayB who was making a similar analogy the other day, i.e. how "anti-globalization" types and islamofascists had the same rhetoric.

just play the video: http://mediamatters.org/items/200508230004

go figure .... you'd think that calling for the murder of a foreign elected official would be considered terrorism too ... i wonder when he'll be picked up by police.

it's looks like the abstinence before marriage programs are working. should probably allocate more money just to make sure

it isn't a 'hard' climb but i think most people find the place a little ominous.

LOL. do you think this is what bush and lance were talking about during the "tour de Crawford"?

the samples were indeed processed blindly but there is no doubt to whom they belong. these papers aren't tabloids by the way. i have always felt that lance should be given the benefit of the doubt but i am afraid that now we have moved well into the "evidence of doping" phase ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050823/ts_...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

"Lance Armstrong has tested positive for using performance enhancing drugs in 1999 the French newspaper L'Equipe reported Tuesday. The seven-time Tour de France winner reportedly used the banned drug EPO according to new tests of urine samples taken in 1999 when he won his first Tour de France." http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e7203/sport_lng0_spo18_evt7203_sto756644.shtml

not Medissa or Urquhart but the Diamond on Bear mtn.

what a bad scene! i can't really blame the family for wanting to know whether changing water drainage had a role in the rockfall. Should we really expect an honest internal enquiry open to the public without external pressure? Shame on the park for playing the blackmail card with the climbing community: how often did they threaten to close the park to tourists when they have been previously sued by visitors (which they surely have).

Thank you! Excellent issue. it was fun to see you acknowledge cc.com fulfulling its potential as enabler of bigger things to come on the NW climbing scene! i love those pics of wolf and austin!

the key word here is 'guide', not follow word for word. there is an idea i never thought of

pretty sticky issue, no doubt. if my neighbor forced me to see something that offended me everytime i looked out the window, i'd be pretty pissed. private property and free speech or not.

true. a once in a while deal isn't so much a problem, it's when it becomes systematic (like squid's pollution of the spray section )

a russian group said last year they had the technology to advertise from space. just imagine sitting at your fav bivy spot and there it is, you just can't escape it. it is not an issue of free speech, clearly, and referring to specific words written >200 years ago to decide issue like that is an argument that only numbskulls would make. you're welcome.

i believe we mostly agree (sorry that it isn't clear) insofar rights arise from our collective consciousness. it explains my emphasis on no one having the ability to give or take away rights that are the product of the evolution of human societies.

i am aware that someone can take life or virginity away (for example) but these actions are sanctionned by society not by the individual. take someone's virginity away against their will and human society will rule that act as unlawful. their right to being a virgin has thus been affirmed even though you may have denied it to them. i'd be quite incapable of giving you a succint/concise history of rights development (that you couldn't otherwise find out in a few minutes on the internet anyway) but modern unalienable rights have their roots in the philosophy of the enlightment (locke, rousseau, etc ...) and are based on the social contract or alternatively on god's will (depending on your political leanings). i also seem to remember that in antiquity, emperors were thought to have unalienable rights.

no, they prevent others from exercising their rights but they can't take away such rights. anyhow, it'd be quite a tour de force to take away what you can't give the concept of inalienable rights is much older than our nation.

true but the converse is also true, no one just "takes" rights away from anyone. rights just are. this is why they inalienable. this is entirely beyond our or anyone else's control. i.e. israel has been found in violation of international law a few dozen times, and in due time they'll have to do something about it if they want to fully integrate the community of nations.

the dihedral route is good. goes free at 10something. a little short (4-5 pitches) but good rock. take some large pro for the dihedral (recall a 4 friend).