Thinker

I hear the makins' of a FINE start to next week's pub club thread.

IMHO, A lot of it has to do with when the climb was put up, who rated it, and several other factors. Back in the day in Yosemite when no one could imagine a climb being harder than 5.10, the easier routes were often sandbagged. Thus climbs in the 5.6 to 5.8 range that were put up in the 60's and early 70s are often tough for the grade as we know it today. The newer climbs tend to fall more in line with what we're used to. In my opinion, that's why people freak so much about Yosemite ratings....they start on a 'nice' 'classic' 5.6 or 5.7 to warm up on, end up getting spanked, and don't ever try any of the newer climbs.

I think Trask read some racy biker mags before he went to sleep last night.................

And everyone seemed well behaved. I don't think the staff got the least bit miffed at us last night, at least not by the time I left. One of the better conversations I had last night was about road maintenance and the logistics of building an outhouse at the trailhead to a local climbing area. Riveting....seriously!

Puhhhhllleeeeeassseee! don't confuse my avatar with my picture! The only photos of myself I've posted are here and here edit: TTT, I know you're just kiddin around as we've met in person a time or two...

If you have any doubt about which group we are, you can just stand at the bar and figure out which table the bartenders and waitress are bitchin' the most about and then head our way....

NEW SECUURITY PROCEDURE HOMELAND SECURITY DEPARTMENT As we all know, the Taliban considers it a sin for a man to see a naked women who is not his wife. So, next Saturday at 2:00pm Eastern time, all American women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort. All men are to postion themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not Taliban, and demonstrate they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all American women. And since the Taliban also does not approve of alcohol, a cold six-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-Taliban sentiment. The American Goverment appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti-terrorist activity. God Bless America!

This was published in the NPS Morning Report today: Mount Rainier National Park (WA) Search and Rescue The park received a report of two overdue climbers late on Sunday, February 16. Christopher McGinnis and Quang Than had planned on traveling to Camp Muir on Saturday, climbing to the summit of the mountain early on Sunday, then returning to the trailhead by dark the same day. Rangers and volunteers from two mountain rescue groups began searching for them on Tuesday. Two teams of climbers searched the Muir Snowfield, while others searched the route by helicopter during a brief period of clear weather. On Tuesday afternoon, two more hikers were reported overdue. Karen Arken and Bree Loewen had departed for Camp Muir on Saturday. Both pairs of climbers had been caught by poor weather late on Saturday. They joined forces, camping in shallow snow trenches at an elevation of 9,600 feet, then began their descent on Sunday in whiteout conditions. They strayed east of the Muir Snowfield onto Paradise Glacier, where they spent the next two nights in a snow cave at 7,200 feet waiting for weather and avalanche conditions to improve. They were drying their gear on Tuesday in preparation for a descent the next day when a backcountry skier came upon them. The skier contacted the park via cell phone, advising of the climbers’ location and condition. The climbers then followed the skier’s tracks back to Paradise, meeting rescuers while en route. Arken, who was suffering from frostbite, was taken to a hospital, but the other three climbers were in good condition. [submitted by Dave Ashe, Incident Commander]

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nice work! care to try and pinpoint it?

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Amen!

I, for one, would like to welcome the King5 gals to participate in Pub Club. It's possible that if they have a better understanding of climbers and climbing they might just be better reporters/editors/newsies in general. It can't hurt to have a couple of media people in our corner when it comes to reporting access issues, fee issues, car prowling at X38, and a host of other things we've all bitched about over the years. AND....if it turns out they want to climb, too, all the better.

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to say the least. Karan is now married and living back east. hasn't been here in YEARS (thus the reason newstips doesn't know her.) I too am impressed that you know the lovely Ruth. Just to set the record straight, I DON'T really know Ruth, at least not that I know of. Do you know what I mean? In any case, I look forward to seeing you'all if you make it this week or next week or somewhere down the line.

At least Brad's a climber: Culminating a six-year effort, Dean Potter and Steph Davis free climbed a former aid line on Moab's Tombstone in January, calling their route Epitaph. The crux pitch, a 230-foot marathon of fingertip jamming and laybacking that Potter led on a 70-meter rope, is undoubtedly one of the desert's hardest cracks. Davis followed the pitch free and led the route's capper, a runout 5.12 dihedral. How hard is the route? Potter, in the style of Chris Sharma and Tommy Caldwell, won't say. "It's the hardest thing I've ever led," he offered. Potter regularly took 50-foot falls onto a micro-cam while working the moves, belayed by his patient friend Brad Lynch. Originally a Jim Dunn aid line dubbed Playing Hooky, the 420-foot route ascends a vertical and overhanging sandstone crack system near the shores of the Colorado River. In December 2001, Potter freed the route using the existing aid belays, one of which split the crux pitch with a hanging stance under a roof midway up the wall. But he wasn't satisfied until he could eliminate the hanging belay. Said Potter, "So often, you can take the easy way. I wanted to aim for the perfect ascent, to go for the ultimate." source

Kill Barney NOW! NOW....HERE!!!

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Sorry Icegirl... some of us don't REALLY care where it's at....we just come and drink when we're off our leashes. Come to think of it, I recently chewed my leash in half and am on the prowl again.

Well, thank you. I guess I am warm...... I don't actually know Ruth. RE Karan, I suspect my sources are a bit dated...

I'd guess that you're Ruth Pumphrey and/or Karan Olson. Am I warm?

If that's truly the case, do you mind if I take a stab at your identities?

Hey Erik, thanks for the back-handed complement on my spelling and sentence structure! But, alas, my work is not nearly so glamorous. Say, when is Amber showing up at Pub Club again?

....I suspect that's probably another one of Trask's avatars and he'd be rollin on the floor if anyone PM'd King5News....