RuMR

gawd i love it when muffster misspells!

fuck the middle east...those fucking barbarians... stuff like this makes me think we should get medieval on those fucking bastards and show them what really could happen if we weren't so "civilized"...

i don't want to think it, but anyone seen/heard from dru???

no...that pic is the dream....

even obtuse ones??

that's my angle, man!!!

i just rage on CBS and then i feel allll's better...ahhh...life is good...

2.5 metric tons and counting... i'm gonna rip ALL the gear out...even with an ATC!!!

on the contrary...

GROUP HUG...BONGO BEATING SESSION ENSUES! BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm going to go eat a big fat sandwich now!! I'm with arch on this...being fat is fun...

CBS is being a moron, cuz when was the last time a lab situation actually accurately reflected real world happenings?? All those "trials" use a hard anchored device, ie, the device will NOT move...how many of you belay this way?? Not many, is my guess... even if the belayer is leashed down to the ground, he or she is still gonna "give" when the hit comes. Multipitching, i personally don't belay the leader off the anchor but off of my harness and i will essentially be lifted up into the belay...again, very dynamic... if your gear is so shitty that you can't handle a gri gri, you'd better put a screamer on it and don't fall, bitches!

WAY TO BUCK THE TREND!

aid climbing is ghey...i don't ever use it in reference to making a point... hmmm...well, a munter hitch sits pretty high on the lock off kN category...would you use it????? face it...the belayer's hips move just 1 INCH, there are now dynamics in the equation...might as well use the gri gri... plus, its hella more convenient...especially if the dude is going BIGGGG!

HA!...you got that one right I just like to watch the shotgun blast of misspelled words coming my way!!!

after checking out kat goin' down on a popsicle, i can never view her as "innocent"...

...you look really innocent, there, homie...

actually, with catturdeat... first I'd say "Don't worry about what knot to tie as you're gonna go splat"...then i'd say "can i watch this?"

the fact that if i know someone is not up to the task because they are a beginner that i'd just say "ah well, fuck it, you're on your own" and then hold the rope...

"Are you scared?" "NO...I'm completely KNACKERED! BOLLOCKS!" gotta love the brits...

it's hard to be in a situation like that. learning to lead is scary (i am a totaly chicken) the bottom line in your situation is this person told you that she felt she was experienced enough to take on this challenge. it is not your responablity as a climbing partner to judge weather she really does know what she says she knows. all you can do is trust that your climbing partner has done proper research on the route and has appropriate experience to lead the route. if you were a guide you would have to take responsablity. as climbers we all have to shoulder our own responsablity for our own ablity and our own understanding of climbing systems and how they work. uhh...i gotta call bullshit on this... bad move for the muffster

neil bently and another brit trying the salathe/free rider... good flick... but i'm curious what everyone thinks of their unique protection of offwidths

...Blood, Sweat, and Bagels?

That's AID climbing, Rudy. In aid climbing, an inattentive belayer is a bigger risk than ripping all your gear out. Just because a GriGri makes sense in that context doesn't mean it's the best choice for free climbing in general. dude...you are a tool...in one breath you say "I absolutely want my belayer to lock off"...in another, you say "no gri gri"... same thing... AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT FREE CLIMBING ON ELCAP... so...I wouldn't hesitate to have someone belay me with a gri gri...