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+1 for a sense of humor, nice to see you exhibit some potential. I agree that the middle picture is the winner of the bunch, you should send it in to the climbing rags.

History has never smiled on book burners, no matter what the book was.

It's a pretty good rant, the more so because few enough today acknowledge what organized labor brought to all of us. Oh, I know, corruption follows money and the unions had their share of it, but Mr Moore is pretty spot on about the creation of the middle class. Rahm Emmanuel is pretty much a bastard without a rudder, the Democrat's version of Karl Rove. Some will argue that you have to bring that kind of weapon to the fight, but I still think it tastes like shit on your toothbrush. Those Wall Street guys? A lot of them did in fact steal a lot of money from average folks, and were dealt with much more gently than your average crook who boosts $67 from the corner mini market. They're lucky to live in a place that goes soft on white collar crime, but it definitely wouldn't be a better world if they were strung up from the streetlights.

I dunno, erotic capital seems like a pretty fleeting and volatile commodity. Seems like right after I cum, you're not so cute anymore PP.

Pinto's got killer huckleberry picking, probably good right about now. Awesome 3 volcano view point too.

outstanding, really great pics too

Ho man, sorry bout that, but you went public with that tidbit back in the day when you weren't yet savvy in the ways of internet spray. I'm glad to see you're still here.

Edlinger, the funny thing is that the guy you're "educating" is the one who did the prior ascent of the IB wall. I don't think it was an 80% overlap, but it's discussed elsewhere and kukuzka1's ascent was a bold adventure.

What did I miss, is Obama cutting back on military contractors or something traumatic like that?

when I first saw the thread topic I thought I was going to read that you'd skied it! Awesome pick for a first alpine rock route, nice photos too.

I'm out of town until Sept 6th, so while the event still runs for folks already registered, there is a moratorium on new folks until I'm back. Sorry for the inconvenience, see you in September.

The Olympics are really great for that sort of 3rd class mountaineering, that trip is going on the list. Thanks for the TR

Odd assortment and poor use of terminology. The gear is the odd man out, otherwise it could be a parent disposing of a kid's discarded obsession. St Helens as a location suggests Portland as a source.

Hey Larry, when you reply to a topic (or start one for that matter) there's a box you can check that says "add this thread to my watched topics" that should do it. You might have to edit your your preferences (MY STUFF on the top bar, pull down menu to Preferences) to make sure the box labeled By default should anything added to your Watch Lists be emailed to you? is checked "yes". Otherwise, yes, you have to keep checking threads to see if anyone has responded to you.

good article j_b, people do in fact take a lot of what government does for granted. government is good

Heinrich, the armchair quarterbacking seems pretty respectful and mostly interested in discussing whether there are any lessons to be learned that could help others in the future. I didn't know Lee, but at 52 years old and having been climbing a long time, it could have been me, and I'd guess that like me, Lee wouldn't mind a frank discussion if it would help someone else avoid the same fate. Sounds to me like they were using standard glacier travel protocol, and probably acting more safely than I've tended to do in the same situation, since I'm often with only one other partner. This seems like one of those tragic incidents that literally could have been any one of us, like Craig Luebben in the Torment moat. This sheds an uncomfortably bright light on the self delusion that risk exposure is controlled by personal choice. I really feel for all of Lee's friends and family, all the best to all ya'll.

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Now that's a great day in the mountains. You've had some great TR's here recently, I've really enjoyed your stories.

Here Bill, this is a real newbie saying hello.

Not sure if you're asking me this question or just being rhetorical, but I'm pretty sure you know I don't believe that.

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The only thing that might lead me to that conclusion is his fondness for truly horrifying choss - that just ain't right.

Yeah, I suppose one would just be a bigot, not much of a step up the social evolutionary ladder though. How does that work with Jews? I mean, it can be an ethnicity, but it can also merely be a religious choice. So disparaging Judaism is not racist, right? It isn't even anti-Semitic since one could feel quite differently about their secular friends of Jewish extraction.