Off_White

Yeah, its that old "if we repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it" schtick. What was that poll the other week, 47% of people in the US now believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the Sept 11th attacks? People are dumb.

Good effort, but you'll have to learn to lie better if you wanna be a lawyer.

On the other hand, the forgeries sound soooo lame that one could only hope they'd do a better job if they meant to do it. Sounds like they got taken in by someone's high school senior prank. What do you think, stupid liars or just stupid? Quite a choice when it comes to our premier foreign intelligence agency.

Mine just raised a helluva bump. It was strange, every time I told someone I hit myself in the head with a hammer they'd start to laugh.

Hah, I've done that one too. Hitting yourself in the head with a hammer makes such a sound inside your head. At least I didn't have that tubular adze on the hummingbird, or unlike Dru's friend I'd have made a core sample of flesh down to the skull on my forehead rather than just getting stiches. Might have been cool looking after everything healed though...

Well, I can't tell if the route is "sick" (I know, different thread) but what's with the clever lacing protocol? Bunions, ingrown toenails? Thats sick.

And while we're on the subject of spyware, might I recommend AdAware, a free spyware cleaning utility available at Lavasoft

buying a house in Portland

I was thinking that locking this dog of a thread might be doing everyone a huge favor, forcing ya'll to focus your razor sharp wit on more deserving topics. This desultory wallowing is just not going to approach a MOS standard. However, this is Spray, rightful home all that is inane and pointless, and maybe everyone would feel oppressed and deprived were I to pry this bone from your jaws. Can anyone profess a sincere desire to string this out a little further?

There isn't really a crag climbing section, though this might properly belong in Alpine Lakes rather than North Cascades.

loose lips sink ships

Dru, why don't you just lay down, kick your feet, and have a good cry. You'll feel better afterwards. WHERE'S MY SNAFFLEHOUND!

trollerific God I hate that condescending crap Its the same as quitting your job, giving away all your money and belongings, and then when you get hungry stealing food from the grocery store and shitting on the counter. When you get caught, defending yourself by saying well I was just training for robbing banks (and they don't have bathrooms in banks)!!! The powerful, compact Chuckfish slips though the shallows. He gingerly takes the bait, moving it about in his sensitive mouth. He seems to understand just what it is, but then he takes the hook and streaks for the horizon! The line just smokes off the reel as Off White ponders how much that slim wisp of monofilament will endure. The chuckfish erupts in one, two, three, four angry faces, and the tropical sun sparkles off his iridescent flanks as he hurls himself into the air in a remarkable display of spirit and power. Smiling to himself, Off White pulls his leatherman from its pouch and cuts the line, nodding his head to the frisky fish and muttering "I was just out for a little sport there laddy." But really, if you have the ambition to get after some remote walls, shouldn't you take the time to try something shorter and more roadside in the kind of conditions you might hit if the weather goes bad? You have to weld some experience to ambition if you want to do walls in places like Alaska, Baffin, or Pakistan. Near death experiences make for great stories, but they're not a lot of fun to go through. While my faux Scottish quip was intended as a troll, I guess I do think that using Index's mini walls as a training ground is pretty valid. I doubt that bCollins & company set out to practice their nailing, and I doubt they'll start an epidemic of adverse conditions ascents. I don't know the route, and I haven't seen their placments, but I'll wager there won't be much in the way of damage. Hopefully, the lessons learned will help prevent bodily damage on more serious endeavors.

If you're looking at 10's, Rubicon at 10c is wonderful. I'd say it was relentless, but then Glassgowkiss would get after me. Run For Your Life in the Real Hidden Valley is a great face climb. Ed, I haven't done the Vampire, but if I had to pick one route at Tahquitz & Suicide I'd like to do, that would be it. Last time I was there was 23 years ago, and I found the prospect a little intimidating.

The game is "Pass The Pigs" Here's a link to an online store that sells it. http://www.thegamestore.com/cardgames/dice_games.html Of course, mebbe you're just trolling, tough to tell sometimes...

Found on www.darwinawards.com DAREDEVIL (29 September 2002, United Kingdom) The Parisian Yamakasi craze, a building-jumping fad inspired by wire stunts in action films, has been likened to a martial art by its practitioners. This urban "art form" was the inspiration for a BBC TV advertisement wherein an office worker travels home by leaping between buildings, over fences, and around antenna. So it seemed perfectly normal to Marc, 22, to engage in a spot of building jumping during his free time. However, this Darwin Award Nominee failed to take into account the fact that he was not a highly trained gymnast, and could not clear the 20-foot gap between two multi-story car parks in Maidenhead. He also failed to consider the result of a body hitting concrete from a height of 40 feet. His friend said, "We just did stupid stuff when we were bored, like finding gaps to jump." The result was inevitable...

Bird on a Wire on Lost Horse Wall Walk on the Wild Side on Saddle Rocks Illusion Dweller in the Real Hidden Valley That would make a hit weekend

It's all just trainin' for the bloody greater ranges, no need ter get yor knickers in a twist

Leading the first pitch of Lunar Leap on Lembert Dome in Tuoloumne, I had just gotten my hands on the lip of the lovely flat ledge that comprises the belay, and as I raised up to mantle, my belayer shouted "you're out of rope" and I simultaneously realized that the indentation in the ledge's edge right in front of my nose was filled with sun-heated very fragrant urine. That was sick.

Hah, it sounds like the best plan may be to ditch the gear and just take the fishing pole. Funny how things look different in the guidebook.

N Ridge of Cheval has been on my "Hmmmmm, might be fun list" for awhile. How was the Jug Lake approach? I'm not opposed to a little alpine humiliation and grovelling.

Nice of you to drop by, we've missed you too Richard. I thought this all got hashed out months ago when it became apparent that sportos consider leading a route with pre-placed draws a red point. Whatever. Do you want your monniker changed to "Retro Trad Post-Modern Sport Climber" ?

You should have seen Canadian Custom's eyes light up when they found a baggie full of lemonade powder in the dash shelf of my old multi-colored VW bus.

I hear RURP might show up.

Right, like sauerkraut became "liberty cabbage" and the frankfurter was renamed hot dog. Only, we were actually at war with Germany, rather than having a policy disagreement. Next thing you know someone will start referring to Saddam Hussein as "Hitler."