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What, you can't grasp the sublime possibilites inherent in the moniker? Well, one couldn't expect much sophistication from a mere scrambler.

Minx, I've heard of your system. I'm sure many of us would appreciate your sharing of the full nomenclature for the plethora of Eric's that afflict us. Scene at the crag: "Hi, I'm Eric!" Me:

Sentences? Presumably you would have sufficient time to read all the sentences ever posted on this board while you are so cold and lonely in PDX. Speaking of which, you wanna go rock out in Portland on the 29th? Dead Moon is playing, and should you doubt my recommendation, go consult RBWBunchanumbers, he'll concur on the overarching rockingness of the band.

YES! That's it, I knew it had a great name to match the position. Having done On The Lamb in Tuoloumne this summer, I've got a total jones for those traverse routes, lead or follow, it's much the same. Top of my list...

There's a dilemma there: the casing over most doors is not nailed on well enough for fingertip pullups. I once lost my deposit on a rental house because of 8d nails with big old heads placed through the casing of several doors for re-inforcement. I'd recommend using about 4 6d (that's "six penny" at the hardware store) finish nails. Finish nails have very slight heads, and with a nail set (long tapered hardened steel pin specific for the task) you can set the heads below the surface of the trim and fill the holes with color putty, and the landlord will likely be none the wiser.

Umm, we're also into kids picture books these days. The obvious Dr Suess (grinch, cat in the hat) but I just saw a trailer for "Polar Express" which was a great kids book by Chris Von Allsburg. These they have to fluff up to movie length, unlike the oft times radical surgery required to try and fit a novel into a single movie.

Your N. Cascades ID skills may be sharp, but this may be a bit far afield for you. Those are indeed the fabled Buttermilks right outside Bishop, and in the lower right you will see the large distinctive Peabody boulders. Alabama hills are further south, and the rock there is different, and more prone to a brown patina. This is the Alabama Hills (Mt Whitney/Keeler Needle in the background is a dead giveaway): As an aside, in the new Looney Tunes film, you'll see them jump desert locations, from Red Rocks to Alabama Hills, then back to Red Rocks. I guess they unified locations by importing phony Saguaros to both locations.

No, it rhymes with gristle. No, it rhymes with pistol. Fistule?

Sad to hear that about Bivouac.com, they used to be one of the best examples of a data-only site. I realized that when you said "Columbia" I assumed you meant North Face (due to my own obsessions), so Bill Pilling's info may not be applicable. They had a trip like Jordan's, complete with running out of food and being overdue.

Hmmm, who's got the egg on their face now Peter?

Yeah, but it can go both ways. I just heard a pretty good version of "Oops, I Did It Again" performed by Richard Thompson.

I particularly liked the middle panel on the bottom, with Erik in the front and E-rock in the back.

Check with Bill Pilling, I think he and Mascioli did one quite awhile ago.

Oh, and what's that route that traverses above the roofs on the Freak Brother's formation out in the Wonderland? 5.9 I think? Maybe old style Joshua Tree 5.9? I've never done it, but wanted to. Walk on the Wild Side is a fun multi-pitch 5.8 face climb out on Saddle Rocks. More Monkey Than Funky can be a swinging good time. I always liked Moosedog Tower in Indian Cove, 5.8ish crack with roof, but maybe that's just because I like the punnish reference. Had a fun event with a couple rangers there too, but thats more of a campfire story...

I think Pinched Rib was underrated for quite awhile, it was the best bet for watching a public sketchfest.

Isn't this more like eavesdropping? I thought voyeurism would involve some sort of visual input.

more than 225 new posts since I left for work this morning? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? Sorry, I just had to get that out. Is it time to move this monster to Spray? Will this surpass Muir on Saturday? Is this like what happens when it's raining like hell and you're on the freeway doing about 70 right behind some huge semi? Power Spray?

No, it rhymes with gristle.

Rubicon Run for your Life Clean and Jerk Solid Gold Breakfast of Champions Taxman

yeah, Jackie Brown was not Quentin's best. I like the current one much better.

Dude, next time around, paste a big target on your ass, bend over, and post this in spray. This thread actually is about climbing, or at least a portion of the considerations about the sport, so please look both ways before you cross the street.

Oh, and if you wanna do the "chat about Molly" thing, I just saw one of her first films, "Spacehunter: adventures in the forbidden zone" on the big screen in 3D (glasses and all) just last weekend.

sure J, but then so are cleaning, scrubbing, using chalk, placing pins, and building trails equivalent activities. If you want to argue that chalk and cleaning are more temporary alterations, then I suggest that your perspective is too anthropocentric. You're somewhat right that the distinction between bolts and chipped holds is one of social convention, but that's true of any of the "rules" around climbing. It's a game humans play. By the same token there is no difference between an ascent of some desperate thin overhanging crack and that of an eight year old who leans over the top and says, "Hey mister, there's a trail up the back." Yes, climbers generally agree as a social convention that bolts are okay and chipped holds are not. Personally, I think that's enough to make a difference between the two practices, and your theory in no way implies that the one leads to the other.

I fixed your apostrophes for you. Good tale.

Stalker.