Greg_W

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: ...necessary governmental intervention in the business sector? The only time it is "necessary" for the government to intervene in the business sector is when violations of property rights or personal liberties have occurred. The myth that the government can "create" jobs or instigate "growth" is total bullshit. Everything the government does to "regulate" the economy, inflation, etc. is just a bunch of reactionary tail-chasing. Greg W

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: And while we're at it, stop playing the "Communism" boogeyman paper tiger when discussing solutions. The only people afraid of socialism are the business elite, and the ones they have brainwashed! I don't know what you mean by "playing the Communism boogeyman paper tiger", but it keeps coming up because this belief system is the basis for the ideologies of many of the liberal politicians in this country. Communism is a small step from Socialism (which is a small step from fascism). The reason people are afraid of socialism is that they recognize that there is a loss of personal freedom inherent to this system. The liberal elite is afraid of unfettered capitalism because they can't regulate it and sate their lust for power. Greg W

Grew up in Chicago - salt sucks. I like the gravel and I accept the fact that I will replace my windshield about once every 18 months or so - $100 deductible, baby. I've been gone, but I'm back. This is for Allison: Gary Locke is the anti-christ!! I put chains on my 4X4 WITH studded tires and I don't slip. What's the big deal?

I don't understand how salt is cheaper than rocks. DOT already owns the pits/stockpiles.

Hey, special, by the looks of you avatar image SoCal agrees with you

Nice action suits, boys. Reminds me of that picture of Messner and Habeler after they summitted Everest in '78(?) without O's. [ 11-15-2002, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: Greg W ]

Since j_b is into discussing useless international coalitions, maybe he could explain to me any benefit we receive from being a part of the North African Treaty Organization (NATO). Was this something created with Britain when we entered WWII in 1942 and sent troops to Africa? Seems pretty stupid to keep it up so many years later. Greg W

quote: Originally posted by iain: quote:Originally posted by Greg W: The "huddled masses" you refer to are immigrants and why should immigrants be expected to get a free handout just for coming here? They should work just like everyone else. Why indeed? They should follow "the American Way" through hard work, and if that's not enough to get by, than they are lazy. And when the parents want something better for their kid i.e. college but they can't quite make it financially, screw them they can suffer like the miserable shits that they are. My money can be better spent on lift tickets and new skis each year. Fuk the poor. Huh...Gee...That's what my Dad did. That's what my grandfather did; and my great-grandfather before that. That's what I'm doing. As far as college goes, there are plenty of financing vehicles available for those who can't afford it. By buying skis every year (if you're ditching old AT gear let me know ) and buying lift tickets you are injecting money back into the economy and that helps everyone. Greg W

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Greg, you should put that on some company letterhead and give it to JK as a reference letter. "Do you have a resume?" "Oh, yes, and here are my letters of recommendation!" "Ah, well, I see here that you do computer-type shit. You're hired!" Hey, what the fuck do I know? I'm just a construction shlub, I don't know what he does except it has to do with computers and, well, shit.

quote: Originally posted by iain: quote:Originally posted by MtnGoat: And yet these same people are the ones who demand the most services. What we have is people who do not generate enough resources for themselves, demanding someone *else* work to serve them. so much for "give me your huddled masses". The "huddled masses" you refer to are immigrants and why should immigrants be expected to get a free handout just for coming here? They should work just like everyone else.

quote: Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: Any jobs to be had should be directed to JK we need to move Yeah, the bro needs a job up this way to support his chica's ever-burgeoning granite addiction. He does computer-type shit.

quote: Originally posted by j_b: well Greg, the first quote was by Eleanor Roosevelt, US representative and chairman of the commission on Human rights. The FDR's were also well-known and staunch Progressives (read: socialist). Take for example FDR's threat to pack the Supreme Court in order to get his unconstitutional laws passed. His threat worked and he was able to bastardize the Commerce Clause and the General Welfare Clause. He/They were definite big government nanny-staters. Not a good example to try and sway me. As far as your comments on MtnGoat's response, most of that quote that you posted violates personal freedoms and property rights of individuals, so I don't agree with it.

Nancy Pelosi, recently elected Minority Leader of the Democratic Party in Congress (forgot which house). She's a San Francisco Demo = ultra-liberal.

quote: Originally posted by j_b: quote:"it sounds like MtnGoat wants us to return to 19th century liberalism (the historical kind not the progressive type)." You are correct sir, the kind that recognizes individuals right to self determination and not as servants of others without their express consent. 8-12 y.o. working children who earn a fraction of what adults make is no doubt an expression of self determination This is a stupid response, j_b; classical liberalism has to do with much more than just child labor and you attempt to smear MtnGoat as a propponent of such is idiotic. The fact that there were obvious child labor issues in the 19th Century doesn't mean that we abandon a political school of thought contemporary to the time. If that's the best you can do, say good night. Greg W

quote: Originally posted by iain: screw the elderly. they are the economic leeches of society. why should my hard-earned money go to their bingo games? Fuckin' A!!

quote: Originally posted by j_b: who said this? "The Universal Declaration is the primary international articulation of the fundamental and inalienable rights of all members of the human family. It represents the first comprehensive agreement among nations as to the specific rights and freedoms of all human beings. The Declaration has become a cornerstone of customary international law, binding all governments to its principles" and who said this: "You're an un-American piece of shit if you buy into this whole UN declaration thing " which opinions among these 2 is most opposite to american ideals? Neither of these quotes are in line with "American Ideals". Number 1 smacks of globalism and it's implication that our duly elected representative government cede it's authority to an "international governing body" that would enforce rules (or "laws") made up by a body that was not elected by the populace it seeks to govern (us). This is exactly what the people who founded this country sought freedom from: government without representation. Number 2 is an obvious troll hehehe. Greg W

Thanks for proving my point for me, Iain.

quote: Originally posted by j_b: pointless suffering? To take the Buddhist view, is any suffering pointless? All suffering in this life will lead to rewards in the next...Watch Brad Pitt in Seven Years in Tibet, it's all clearly explained. [ 11-14-2002, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: Greg W ]

quote: Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: but Greg... NO child should be left behind Until they can hold a job, children are irrelevant in the economic spectrum.

quote: Originally posted by iain: all in the wrist That's why DFA can't get a page top, his wrist is sore from spanking to climbing porn

quote: Originally posted by j_b: it sounds like MtnGoat wants us to return to 19th century liberalism (the historical kind not the progressive type). It sounds like you want to launch us into some sort of socialistic nanny-state where people have to be dependent upon the government to meet their needs. Many of the "rights" this declaration establishes have no basis outside of government. Is the government the body that "provides" you with rights? Not for me thanks. By the way, the classical liberalism that you appear to decry began long before the 19th century and was the basis for the founding of this country. Greg W P.S. You're an un-American piece of shit if you buy into this whole UN declaration thing

quote: Originally posted by rbw1966: As Allison pointed out some time ago, Greg is white. Yes, but I'm a "high yellow" kinda white. See:

quote: Originally posted by allison: C'mon Greg, say it....."poor people are lazy"....you know you want to, and your people are expecting it!! Allison, I'll save that for when this thread gets tired and it needs a good troll injection to kick-start it. "Your people..." I have no people, I am myself and beholden to no one except Charlton Heston, the memory of John Wayne, and the dude that brews Guinness Stout.

quote: Originally posted by trask: I have some used cardboard boxes from my home in the alley. I got new ones. Would you like my old ones? I thought you were going to use the old ones to classify your dump as a multi-family dwelling.

I know we have a bunch of contractors and construction people on the .com, so I thought I'd post this. I'm looking for some old, used kitchen cabinets to hang in my garage. If you're doing a tear out or remodel and come across some, drop me a line. Greg W