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Allison, try a google search. They have a ton of good info.

Yeah but it's free, and free stuff is cool! But I keep thinking there will be like a stage 2??

In Washington: SnoPark Permit: $20 Groomed Trails Permit: $20 NW Forest Pass: $30 Washington Fish and Wildlife Parking Permit: $12 Mt. Rainier Annual Pass: $30 Mt. Rainier Annual Climbers Permit: $ 25 Mt. St. Helens & Mt. Adams Annual Climbing Permit: $30 Olympic National Park Annual Pass: $ 30 Olympic National Park Wilderness Use Fee: $ $5 Good list, and would like to add: $70 annual permit for state park's $50 annual for marymoor park/climbing wall While these are not specific to climbing the list seems to go on and on. It's almost like you couldn't keep up even it you wanted to. Sometimes I pay, most times I don't. It would seem to me if the higher up's got it together they would do better by combining it all into one modest fee!

I saw that standing in the checkout line thinking if that was written in his country he would cut off there hands or worse. What a hoot.

Jeeezz dru don't leave us hanging! What happened next?

I will stick to my eeekasty drug thank you very much!

Tom, we didn't get shortchanged on this one in any shape or form. But not a bad thing, as I will never forget coming up the last pitch to the summit. It was like a 2 dimensional world. The world below our feet as all the ski area's at this point were lighted up with skiier's skiing, cars and trucks up and down I-90 etc... And the world we were in above which was a stunning sunset and alpenglow over Kendall,red,and lundin peaks and Rainier looming south. Hey, what the hell sometimes it is nice to get to stay out after dark. But that day on Whitehorse I know I didn't want to descend in the dark through that shwack!

plexus,Flashbacks might last a week but I am ready to go again anytime. weatherwise We definately had the day, and night for it. Hope your next planned trip goes a bit better for ya.

CBS, great trip report I just was soaking in the hot tub at the rec center, closed my eyes and kept getting flash backs wonder how long those last after a climb like that. I am sore but mostly area's that I don't usually train (calves/forearms). Just some extra beta for anyone doing this in the winter. Bring rack up to 2", a good assortment of slings, 1-2 ice screws just in case, 1 picket, we used a 9.9 60M rope and fine but 2 50's would have given us that little bit of extra we needed on some of those rap's into the inky black abyss. Expect crappy rock in areas, example was the small ledge I was belaying Catbirdseat up on one pitch seemed fine and just as he was getting near half the ledge just fell away leaving my heels in air and just my toes touching. Now that was scary. What a great time though. For such a small Mt. it is a tough one.

I would like to read that if you have scanned it. Interested in redoubt this year.

Talk about hitting the nail right on the head!

And the best part they are lighter than most cams for the longer hauls. Camalot #.75 =5 oz/ similar forged friend #1.75=3.5 oz doesn't seem like much but all the little oz's adds up.

Looking to get out this weekend and pretty much open for anything. New to ice climbing so probably couldn't start out on WI4 which timl is leaning towards. But if anyone wants to do something a bit less commiting that is cool to

I would be up for some ice climbing or alpine mixed. Check your pm's.

Yes, I was talking about technical ice tools. Just bought a set and they had a knot that I was not familiar with. Definately not a water knot though. Thanks for the info though.

Daler, yup that is what they came with. Just wondering what others use. Joshk, The leash is just regular alpine type with webbing. Water knot is good.

curious on which knot everyone else uses to tie there ice tool leash to the tool?

DPS, appreciate the effort. I think one area that I definately need to trim weight is my kelty 4 season shelter. Nice tent but weighs probably 10# or more! Have you ever been in a roaring wind storm and or snow/rain with that betamid?

Terminal Gravity, Very good point's indeed.

Looking for partner this weekend. Considering the new snow forecast over the stout base, this looks like a decent trip in the tree's for the most part. Summit on Sunday with a forecast of SUN. Any other ideas are welcome.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/wrhq/TotalForecast.csh?TotalForecast+WR+WA+017+061 Potential for 30 inches by Friday

Not doubting you but wondering what you are carrying on a volcano slog to keep the weight below 20 #? Could you post your gear list. I am in the process of replacing all my heavier gear and could use any suggestions.

Tom, just read this and brought back painful reminders of that shwack. Definately, the way to go this year is that trail to lone tree pass. Watching the avvie conditions for a repeat this weekend possibly?

That chart got me to thinking about the sports section in USA today. They started a 10 day series today with the top 10 hardest sports. Today (#10) was downhill skiing like the 80 mph kind. I wonder if anything on that chart will pop up in the next 10 days? Good job Wayne.