allison

Bryan, Given that you were long gone when the board was shut down, I doubt you know what you were talking about. I still write for the WTA magazine, how about you? Allison

Why is it that when men and women spar with one another, seriously or in jest, that that means they are "smitten"? That may have played on the schoolhouse playground, but we all grow up eventually. W's little graphic of the humping/sodomizing smiley faces is a prime example of the sort of crap that a lot of women with perfectly functional senses of humor would find tacky and possibly offensive. I do. How about a little wit?

"Why is it that women over-react to jokes and such? Seems to me that if a woman wants to play with the boys she should be able to take the same shit they do. You see something a bit ribald, forgedaboudit. Go around it. Don't take shit so personal. Especially in "spray"." I could go on about what is wrong with this, but if any of you really want to know why, ask your wives. Or your mothers. Except for one thing: this is not the 'spray' page. I rarely venture there, and I am eternally hopeful that people who need to spray will go to the Sprayground, and leave the more good-natured ribbing and discourse out here on the main board. Some of the stuff I see around here verges on hateful, toward women, toward gay people, toward each other. Can't you guys at least keep that sort of sordid garbage out of the main board? 'Zat too much to ask?

I have an Arc'teryx Khamsin series pack, and I have done lots of different things in it and have never for one minute been unhappy with it. Suuuuper comfy. The only thing I would change on it is there is a long zip on mine, it's heavy, and they don't have those anymore. It's got a single aluminum stay and a thin packsheet in it. It's is brilliantly comfortable, and from MEC was still agonizingly expensive, but I wouldn't trade it for the world, except for maybe to get another Arc'teryx pack. Great, great packs. I wasn't going to add to this thread but really wanted the Arc'teryx to stand out. Note: MEC is the cheapest place I know of to get them, but you'll need to go and buy in person, no mail order on Arc'teryx, good reason to go to MEC...also, try on all of the sizes. I am 5'9" and was surprised to find that I am a 'short' by their sizing.

"Fairweather"....different discussion group, different handle, same crackpot. I was on another board this guy used to frequent, but he got kicked off, for good reason too. Be thankful cc.com doesn't have an office for him to bother!

Let me just say that I whapped K upside the head *twice* to his one whap, just hours ago. Let the games begin, TreeBoy!! [ 03-13-2002: Message edited by: allison ]

Kitten fight, my ass. Alpine K's BARK is much worse than his BITE...as those of you who have encountered him in person may have noticed...I'd kick his ass.

Hi. Heard of sarcasm? Seriously,if someone does step over the line in my general direction, they get a pm from me. Some of you may already know that. Have a happy day. I am going to pick up BOTH volumes of Wolcott's "Lakes of Washington" for $22 at 3rd Place Books. One of my favorite resources is ABEBooks.com, specializing in finding rare and out-of-print bookage, sometimes at fantastic prices like these! A happy day indeed.

Thanks to all for your help on this. I really appreciate all of your input, except of course Rodchester, who once again manages to be a total smartass for no particular reason.

Thank heavens we have Counsel on the board. I was getting nervous about the Drunken Eastside Sausage Group, who not only pushed the envelope on the above, but seriously jumped the gun on the timeline for location selection, for which code is still in committee. Generally, it would appear, location is not set until less than 48 hours prior, in order to keep paparazzi out, I'd assume. Before the elders meet to discuss the fate of all of us, let me gently offer a compromise solution: In order to appease all parties, one of the upcoming 2 Seattle weeks could be held at each location. My primary concern here is that the attendees of the previous week's Pub Club determining the locatin of the subsequent week's Pub Club could lead to malice, trickery, corruption, bribery, and a lot of other bad things I can't think of right now.

I'm certainly not "scared" to meet you or anyone else associated with cc.com. To wit, I've been to PC in Seattle several times. I'm just not enthused enough about it to drive to I-Quah, that's all. There's always next week...

quote: Originally posted by big red dog: Hopefully your using a dynamic rope for leading, Uh, if you're not, you're probably already dead.

Who's begging?

No, you twink, the road is going to be closed between the 8Mile TH and the Colchuck TH. That's about 4 miles up the road. I did read your post correctly. And thanks so much for the helpful LNT 101, having only been hiking in these woods for a couple of decades, I wouldn't know that chalk was unsightly. I was going to respond to your PM on this subject, but since you've decided to put me on your 'ignore' list, I guess I'll have to keep the conversation public. Seems odd that you sent such a nice PM and then hit the big 'Ignore.' What gives?

Lemmejustsay that I *second* Icegirl's suggestion, and that we will be at Dick Cheney's place in the North End secretly drinking nothing with no one tomorrow evening, at an undisclosed time. I for one had no idea the rules were so stringent on such things, and that nary a suggestion about a TacoFest shall ever occur again on the *wrong* week in the rotation! See you knuckleheads next week.

I've been watching this board for months, and I can't think when you've ever been nice, why would you start tomorrow? Meanwhile.....see all you Seattlites next week. Let me just say that AK's remark about the pier struck me as rude.....but then I suppose that's not the first time THAT'S happened on this board, eh? And now of course he's gone all nice on me again. [ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: allison ]

Holy Maybelline, Icegirl, the Lads Who Love To Spray have gotten all SENSITIVE on us! Jay-zus H. Jimminy! We'll see you guys next week, hopefully with slightly thicker SKINS!!! PS. You want us to show, offer to drive us.

Have a nice Sausage Fest, boys.

I plan on 30# pack weight maximum, probably more like 25#. As for the other guys, well, they like to bring fishing gear, but they're sturdy lads. I'm not expecting any sort of a trail. If there is one, fine, but this crowd kind of "prefers" there to be no trail. I'm more concerned with the route being super-brushy or a slippery dusty scree-fest. Both of those factors can really cramp my style.

"I went in to the Lost World via the Totekie (sp)? approach last year. It is the single-worst, heart-breaking pieceof shit death-hike I've been on. Don't go that way unless you like steep, loose and dusty remnants of climbers paths. I've been told by knowledgeable sources that there is a better way in by hooking a right at Nada Lake and going in via the Temple drainage. Or, if you don't mind the mileage, go through the lower Enchantments and over Prusik Pass. The Lost world Plateau is one of the most beautiful areas I've had the good fortune to visit. And hard enough to get to that it we didn't see anyone else the entire time we were there." Hmmm...interesting. The Toketie route actually looks like the "easiest" way in besides going over Prusik. I'm curious as to whether you go off trail regularly or occasionally, because "single-worst heartbreaking POS" sounds pret-ty bad. Someone just PM'ed me that that way was NOT that bad. Also, anyone been up the Temple drainage? Yes, I've seen pix of the LWP, and it looks to be worth every step of the death-march that trip purports to be. Beeee-yooutyful! BTW, Erik, I still can't PM you, I'm "ignored", and Bug, our party's actually already full, but thanks anyway. I am fortunate enough to have a lot of buddies whose wives or GFs don't like to hike. [ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: allison ]

Jon, remember I-695? State surplus all gone now! People with expensive cars have the money now, as it should be....

IG, I'm going to wait for the Eastsiders to weigh in. If they let us have it, I'll post the location again. for what it's worth I have to work tomorrow night (and next Tues), if it's in Seattle either time I'll make it down about 10:45, and if it's in the ESide, I won't make it because it'll be too late. FWIW I know of at least one other PC regular who can't make it this week....

Erik, Five miles each way is not acceptable. Especially when there's a perfectly good road that is open to the 8Mile TH. I think we'll be just fine parking at the 8Mile TH and walking the extra mile to the Colchuck TH. Sounds like the creek is passable if we decide to go that way. I am hoping to make that decision after the road is closed. If it look like we can't get in that way, any one been in to Lost World Plateau via either the Rat Creek or Hook Creek drainage? They both look heinous on the map! Oh, and thanks so much for the advice on packing my pack.....I couldn't have done it without you.

Oh, Bug, I forgot to tell you. No.

Ouch. Nice thread drift, guys. Had to skim all of Page 2. I just got a permit in the mail for Aug 8-11. My buddies and I really want to off-trail it into Coney and beyond via the old logging road spur at the Colchuck TH. Assuming that there are not armed guards at the closure, seems like we might be able to park at eightmile TH and walk past the construction in the evening without making any major disruption. I've never been up that road past the eightmile TH, how feasable is it that if these bridges were under construction, that we could walk through? I am a climber, but the guys I'm going with are not, and we will not have any gear with us except maybe I'll bring a pair of slippers and a chalk bag.