glen

Somehow, this picture needs a caption.

How about a couple of beers secretly stashed in your partner's pack. Always tasty on the first night out.

Imagine giving out drections to a party at that intersection. Pretty much guaranteed to be a sausage-fest. [ 09-20-2002, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: glen ]

I know NASA has one of the chicken-plane test apparatuses. Apparently the brits were curious to see how their planes would deal with a collision between one of their cockpits and a flying chicken. Upon testing it, the bird went through the windshield, and effectively desroyed all in its path. Shocked and deeply terrified of the what the test results could mean for their aircraft and pilots, they sent a letter to NASA asking for engineering advice to fortify their aircraft against bird hits. NASA responded with a simple solution, "Thaw the chickens before you run the test."

Nice one TLG. Perhaps another spin on it is whether or not we climb because of the type of person we are (ie, an outgrowth of personality), or if climbing is a way of life that we more or less buy into. If climbing is a way of life, it could be that those that are more committed to spending time climbing may simply have personalities that cater to that. For example, a person may like climbing as a way to challenge themselves in both a physical and mental forum. If that person also goes out of their way to do challenge themselves in all aspects of life, I would argue that climbing is a particularly clear example of a way of life. just a thought. a lot of people climb a lot and it is just a hobby.

Ask Lambone about this one. He has done a lot of winter stuff in the area.

Reading ChucK's comment the other day on gettng a free forest pass in exchange for trail work, I decided to do a little looking into it. WYA has a good page that makes it easy to get involved. Trail maintanence page Looks like 2 days of trail maintenance gets you a free pass. Certainly not economical, but is a bit more ethically palatable considering that is more of a stewardship approach.

So, we've all got the stories about horrible, scary, cheapskate, selfish, evil, death-causing, stinky, talk-your-ear-off-about-nothing, and generally horrid climbing partners. BUT! We all also know that most of our great climbing experiences have been that way because we've had great partners in addition to some nice rock to ascend. What is it that makes a good partner? Skills and experience are definitely plusses, but I've also headed out with relatively inexperienced partners who have been excellent partners despite being a bit green. To take it a step further, how do you spot a good partner? For that matter, how do you tell the bad ones from across the parking lot (other than the Tarzan yells and shiny, unused gear).? Ok, so I'm tired and need sleep, but I am curious.

Jtree and about 1.5 hours of daylight left. Offer to let a friend getting their feet wet in trad leading run up a 5.4 (that, despite being in Jtree was actually 5.4) using my rack. Despite having plenty of gear, I was yelled and screamed at for my sparse rack (which was not so sparse) which had none of the pieces required to protect the climb (supposedly). I got torn a new asshole for being nice and offering to belay bitch instead of enjoy the sunset.Having never, ever been yelled at like that in my life, it was the last time I belayed for that person. Well, that and the guy I did Royal Arches with (instead of going to work on my last day working in Curry village). Let's just say that I decided to do the walk off descent rather than the speedy rappel route to avoid being on a rope with him any longer. It's a good thing the climbing is easy on that route.

ChucK, you are getting dangerously close to encouraging people to be pro-active there... Maybe someone should just print out a shitload of copies of the pass (easy enough to fudge the serial number in photoshop) and post them on their favorite TH sign with a big FREE label on it. Larry would have fun tracking all of those down. Flood the market.

Ooohhh... I feel a good thread coming on here. We have both the Mounties and Fee Demo going at the same time. I guess the only thing that is missing is the REI climbing dept. But yeah, don't pay for forest passes. An idea I recently heard (but havn't seen the results of yet) is to scan a forest pass in and laser print as many as you need on heavy-stock paper. Voila! Though, this is somewhat dodging the issue as it will still be another car apparently 'supporting' the program. As for the Mounties... yes I've met some cool ones, on the Tooth no less. My beef is with the way that they show up in herds (of mountainsteers) and monopolize crags. Some (definitely not all) of the leaders are somewhat yahoo-ish. I guess my main beef is a result of dislike of touchy-feely group led activities. Hey, is it possible to buy a forest pass at REI, use it and return it saying that you are disappointed in the product, and is it still under warranty?

Depends on what the girlfriend looks like...

and women don't talk in code?

Day 1: Arrive late, drink beer with friends. Nurse hangover from Lambone's wedding. Day 2 (part one): Hike to Cloud's Rest to continue nursing hangover. Return in a straight line to trailhead by descending the E edge of the Megaslab. Highly recommended. Day2 (part two): return to trailhead to friend who says, "If you get the paperwork done fast enough, we might still be able to get some food." "Huh" Look and see the five patrol vehicles crowded around the remains of the rear end of my truck. Apparently a spanish couple had rear ended my truck at 45mph - no brakes- throwing my truck forward about 15-20 feet. Do paperwork, drink beer. Day 3: Talk on phone with paperpushers. Get one pitch in in the morning/early afternoon. Talk on phone with paperpushers. Day4: Get towed on flatbed to Mariposa. Await decision on fate of truck at home of family. Swear incessantly. Photos coming soon!

Yep, done packing, and turning off the computadora for 3 weeks.

Pretty soon.... I still need to pack... s*&% ! maybe around 6 or 7ish? Hey, aren't you done with hittin the books for a while?

t minus 15 hours until I leave for California granite....

I guess that makes you a Cancer. Happy B-day a month or two late. There is a leisure class at both ends of the economic scale.

One of the best ways to keep things civil is to offer a good alternative place to go place pins (other than up their a$$ of course). Where do you guys recommend someone go to learn the craft? Is there a good roadcut with a variety of cracks that isn't going to attract the state patrol, etc...?

Page Top? Regardless of your tastes, here's a little something for everyone... Musical Nugs

what's your sign?

Or was it his fleshlite?

iain, have you ever even heard a good Trey jam? Apparently not. Even if their music is not to their liking, you gotta admit the dude is a master on the fretboard. And heaven forbid anyone should ever try anything new musically and have fun while they're at it. Go back to your Glen Miller albums.

Can't forget these guys... Red Elvises!