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  1. Trip: Marble Canyon - Unplanned Bivi Off Pavilion Edge Date: 5/18/2008 Trip Report: Since Don had been hit on his motorcycle and was out with a gimpy leg, Graham, Jesse and I were given the task of going climbing with Simon Richardson. The forecast was for broiling heat with frequent avalanches so we decided to do some cragging and then maybe a long route in a dry location. Saturday we drove out to Hope and went climbing at Nicolum Knob: Jesse leading Dead Soles 5.10c Simon seconding DS Jesse leading Land down Under 5.10a on the second tier. After this pitch it was too hot to climb so we went to LoTW and swam around for a bit, then drove up the canyon to Marble Canyon and an excellent free camping spot. Sunday morning we got up early, packed up, and headed for Pavilion Edge. Jesse and I backed off this with a snowstorm coming in, back in late September. This time we had good weather and even some beta as to the upper routefinding from a contact of Lyle's. The approach scramble and opening pitches went pretty quick, since Jesse and I knew where we were going. At our old highpoint, which is a 1-pin, 1-bolt station, we somehow managed to forget all our routefinding beta. The guidebook was relatively obscure about where to go. We traversed right about 15m to a gear belay and various party members tried a steep corner crack in white rock above, but it felt surprisingly hard and we concluded (wrongly) that this was not the way to go. Back to the bolt and pin and Simon tried to go straight up from the belay. He got a ways up into bad rock and came back down. We all sat around and WTFed for a while. It was bail off or head left so Simon led out left. After a long slow lead, it was Graham's turn to second. I led along right behind Graham and in fact made more of a pinkpoint as G left the gear, what there was of it, in for me. This pitch was kind of hard and really exposed traversing on sometimes bad rock. Simon's belay was on a partially detached ledge and consisted of two nuts (one OK, one bad) and one so-so Tricam. Somehow we got all 4 of us onto this ledge without breaking it off, and tried to decide what to do. We got in two knifeblades, one of which was bomber, to back up the bad nuts in the belay. Straight up was overhanging bad rock, and the same below. Back-leading the traverse, or leading off into the unknown, further left seemed like the only two options. Jesse following the first traverse. Graham eventually psyched up and led off out left. He went about 10m hard left with no pro, breaking a couple small holds off, then climbed up a bit, broke some more holds, and got in a blue TCU. Past this he gained a rotten pedestal with a rosebush, then said "It might just go!" and climbed out of sight above. Rocks rained down from his position. Eventually we heard an "Off belay". Simon climbed out left and vanished, then Jesse. Finally it was my turn (we were climbing as a party of 4 by this time instead of as 2 parties of 2). Simon seconding Graham's scary pitch. This one was harder than the previous one and the rock was worse. We eventually convened again at a set of one-cheek gravel ledges in a dihedral/cave feature. At least there was a good crack here. Jesse tried to lead straight up but the rock was overhanging and rotten and he came back down. Then I grabbed some gear to try a leftwards traverse but Graham checked the time and it was 8 PM. We decided it would be better to bivi all together and in a location where at least there was good pro, and set up some hanging bivis where we were. Some of us had one-cheek ledges and some were just stemmed across the corner or on sloping shelves. We used our packs to reinforce the ledges a bit, and Graham made a bosun's seat out of rope. We settled in for an unplanned and mostly unequipped bivi. The night was pretty long. I had on a jacket, neckwarmer and tuque and I didn't really manage to sleep, just nod and shiver. Every 5 or 10 minutes I would shadowbox and rub my legs to stay warm. Jesse and Simon acually managed to snore a bit. At least it was not too cold a night, and with the full moonlight, we could tell how time was passing. In the morning, when it was light enough to see again, we had a discussion about what to do. It looked like 1 more pitch up and left would take us to some sort of tree ledge, but we couldn't be sure we'd get there at a manageable grade. We ddn't know about the rock quality heading down, but basically, everyone was cold, sore and/or scared and no one wanted another lead like the last 2. So we decided to take our chances bailing off, and rap. I was all for a three-rope fixed rope descent to guarantee making the gully bed if we couldn't find intermediate anchors, but Simon persuaded me we should just do standard rappelling. I went first and found a short crack about 50m down that took bomber gear. The next rap was another 50m or so to a sloping gravel ledge with some piton-accepting seams and a pocket for a cam. The final rap was almost 60m and got us down to the bed of the Great Gully. Rapping off the wall Simon rapping into the bed of the gully Graham rapping into the cave below an overhanging chockstone partway down. Getting down the gully involved overhanging chockstones, plenty of loose rock, pricklebushes and one muddy waterfall, but we made it down OK. We were back at the car just before noon, in time for a nap and some long-delayed breakfast. So Jesse and I are 0 for 2 on Pavilion Edge now but at least we know where not to go. Graham and Simon got rooked into an unexpected adventure but all in all, everybody survived so all's well that ends well. Gear Notes: Kbs useful. Bolt kit might help too. Otherwise rack to #4 Camalot will do. Approach Notes: Follow YBR approach and head up and left above the Lower Walls.
  2. 700-800m +/-
  3. the sit start to your mom is pretty steep!
  4. I have never hit my head while falling but I have sure taken a bunch of helmet whacks from falling ice and rock. I am on my second polycarbonate helmet. If I was using polystyrene helmets I'd probably be on my 12th by now.
  5. These are the "rigid Friends" rather than the Forged friends and I think they switched over in about 98?
  6. Those are about 10 to 15 years old.
  7. G-spotter

    True meaning

    is that guy wearing clip-ons?
  8. what, no serena?
  9. I hope a weightlifter chica gives you a personal golden shower on your special day, pooter!
  10. duffy lake road - which is closed right now with avvy debris blocking the road
  11. I figure he'd be saddened by the comma.
  12. Even if it's a tourist's leftovers that you are scarfing?
  13. ow http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080515/canada/canada_roughsex_col
  14. G-spotter

    GodTube

    Communism is a country? Wow.
  15. if you share the tub make sure to share the youtub too
  16. Hey Mark and Rudy You guys know so much I'm gonna glue these babies in, what kind of epoxy should I use?
  17. you are nuts.
  18. They're going for about 6 GBP right now, which converts to about $12 each, so yes, pretty spendy indeed. I've never used them/seen one used. $9.75 CDN at MEC petzl longlife
  19. When you place an expansion bolt, the wedge/cone is forced into the bolt somewhat by the sides of the hole, but the back of the hole also has an effect. A bolt that has dead space behind doesn't have the wedge forced as tightly into the sleeve and hence is weaker. Put another way - if the bolt, like matt suggests, can be tapped deeper into the hole by hammer blows - it can also be pulled OUT by the same forces. If the bolt is snug against the back wall of the ole and can't be tapped further in, it also has the wedge deeper into the sleeve and is more solid as a result.
  20. Matt, if you drill an 8 inch deep hole and put a 2 inch long bolt in it, do you think the extra 6 inches of dead air space reduces or increases stability vs. a hole with no airspace?
  21. G-spotter

    drugs

    Kevbone, what about gasoline? Seems like from the evidence that yo mama may have huffed while pregnant with you.
  22. Is this the same whaa whaa bad rock factor that caused a perfectly protectable crack to be bolted over by Spaghtti Sauce? It sounds to me more like maybe the holes were drilled with the wrong size bit (9mm bolt but 10mm hole), or that the holes were drilled too deep so that the wedges did not engage.
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