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I mean I think it is possible the ropes were not tied together. No knot at all, nothing, just two ropes completely separate. The other scenario (fig8 rolling over,eating up all the tail until the ropes part) that has been implicated is also possible. We will never know. Kevin, the system you use sounds 'not totally dangerous' to me. Long tails, snug overhand knot. If you die on rappel one day it's not my fault though. There are pro-cons to every rappel system but it's always sketchy.

my thought on reading this was that possibly Ross forgot to tie the ropes together entirely. RC says he couldn't see the anchor and doesn't know how it was set up. Very sad [ 06-17-2002, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: fern ]

in previous years the closures have been lifted around Aug 1st.

from gripped.com: ========================= Grand Wall Closed Today The peregrine Falcons who have previously nested atop Freeway, are now nesting on Grand Wall. As of today, (June 12) BC parks is closing the upper part of the route until the birds have fledged. ========================= I have heard but cannot confirm: 1) That this closure affects only the last few pitches before Bellygood, and the route can still be climbed to at least the top of the Sword and then rapped. 2) The nest is actually somewhere on Humpty Dumpty 3) The closing of the Grand is balanced by the opening of Freeway and other climbs in that area.

Randy Grandstaff died in a rappelling-related 150' fall in Red Rocks 2 weeks ago. Nothing related to Liberty Ridge/Mt Hood troubles. according to things I have read he climbed K2, trained Navy Seals, ran a guiding operation, had been climbing for over 20 years. [ 06-12-2002, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: fern ]

http://ubc-voc.com/album/other/ you will find thumbnail and caption.

DP did redoubt with dru and frimer

redoubt dunno - north face? Persson - R.I.P.

that loaves and fishes trick woulda made expedition food planning a cinch though

quote: Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by Greg W: quote:Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by fern: quote:Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by chucK: quote:Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by chucK: Dru, I think you could solve your problem if you just used tape. TAPE IS AID!!!! It seem that you really don't want advice as much as you would rather rag on other peoples's answers.Except that I only rag on the stupid ones just wanted to see more nested quotes Like this??Or this? Eventually that middle quote is gonna get stretched pretty thin maybe we can get it down to one word per line and it will look like a concrete poem

quote: Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by chucK: quote:Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by chucK: Dru, I think you could solve your problem if you just used tape. TAPE IS AID!!!! It seem that you really don't want advice as much as you would rather rag on other peoples's answers.Except that I only rag on the stupid ones just wanted to see more nested quotes

crackbolter, I look forward to reading your biography of Dru's climbing career since you seem to know so much about it. The chapter on Salal Creek should be especially elucidating.

I was once rescued by helicopter. It was not military. They charged me $53. The crutches cost more thanks again rescue guys, you were swell and said nice things.

hmm

quote: Originally posted by Dru: And the Subaru Alpinism road trip and not backing off Louis when Fern wanted to, and consequently running out to the car at midnight with no headlamp so they wouldnt lock us in. didn't want to back-off, if I'd wanted to back off we woulda backed-off eh. ... or maybe I just have a selective memory I almost never really get a sense of accomplishment out of climbing anything, whether bold or mundane. There have been a few moments of 'Oh yeah! Yay me' but I get those more often from skiing than climbing. But I still like to climb because it's fun, even if it doesn't make me feel like an awesome person.

quote: Originally posted by sk: Actualy it is TOAIST... Read up on you anciant chinese philosophy actually I think that is an ancient Roman breakfast treat [ 06-05-2002, 01:35 PM: Message edited by: fern ]

Bruce Stover scrubbed and fitted something in the W. Dihedrals last year in the vicinity of Illusion, I can't remember how 'moderate' it is but it was easier than 5.12. I'm pretty sure it's in one of the new route logs.

I have heard this condition referred to as 'pack-ne'

well I guess it's just too bad then that most of the guys I climb with are already hooked up or don't require my 4th class limited ropegun services.

I was just wondering if a guy asked me to drag him up something if I could expect to get some sometimes you guys say funny things about girls...makes me laugh.

I'm curious what constitutes a 'ropegun hooker' ... does there have to be an actual exchange of sexual favours for climbing experience? Can a guy be a ropegun rentboy?

so suppose You (the non-hypothetical but actually real Peter Puget you) remove the fixed gear (and add no bolts) so that You can free the thing, and You succeed (way to go!). If then You hear that some dude has gone up and aided the thing and bashed in some new heads ... are you going to feel like finding him and laying the smack down for hammering on 'Your Climb'? Or are you going to feel like 'well I already had my fun on that piece of rock and now he can have his fun and it's all good let's buy another round '. Whether you remove the fixed gear or not you have zero control over how much following climbers will scar the rock, only they have that control. I say have your fun, tread carefully yourself and then move on, and have faith that most other climbers will feel the same way.

on the edge of Kluane Lake about 1km before the Slims River Bridge is a single black basalt boulder with a survey marker on its top and some cool problems on the side facing the water. [ 05-29-2002, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: fern ]

maybe I am misremembering, maybe many spleens have ruptured on the Shield, but the incident I thought I recalled reading about in ANAM involved Rich Prohaska clove hitching to every piece on a rivet ladder and then taking a static fall when a homemade hanger ripped a swage ... or whatever ... I don't care ...