Figger_Eight

Or you bring 1 tool with the pinky fuckthing and 1 straight shaft Rage, Black Prophet or whatever. You don't need two completely different sets of tools. Shit...regular ice axes don't climb mellow alpine ice that bad either.

yeah, yeah...blah, blah, blah. i ain't scared of you or your puppy - bring it

Okay...these fuckers with their pinky fuckthings and all are a pain in the ass in applications where a regular ice axe would excel. If I was climbing something where I was spending most of my time at 60 degrees or steeper I'd take em both. But they would suck on a crevasse field. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Cavey - if it's this tool you're talking about, you can use it on less than vertical ice for sure. I'm talking about the tools with the fat grips and the lip for the little finger. Burying the shaft in hard snow is a pain in the ass, if you can do it at all. Just my 2 cents anyways.

That was almost as epic as the Adams South Side trip. Okay, two tips: If you have two tools, you'll probably need screws. If your leader is sending ice down on you...ask him to climb seven feet to the left.

I've been using a pair of Quasars for the last few years and unfortunately they blow for alpine. Any of the tools with the radically curved shafts are going to suck for anything other than vertical ice and mixed climbing. I got to use the Cobras for the first time last year and found their swing weight to be lighter than I'm used to. If you're used to heavier tools, like the Quasars or Quarks you might find yourself swinging the lightweight tools twice to set them instead of just once. Anyways, whatever - they all work.

Bring John Long's "Climbing Anchors" book with you.

Gustav's sucks. Post Office rules. I'll be rolling in Saturday...see ya'll there.

looks like i'm showing up later on Saturday. save me some beer.

quote: It may cost me more to have a job than I get paidThey usually do. Are you going to let us know what job you got?

I think she's beta testing smilies on different platforms.

Great reading though. That expedition turned out to be a cluster f*%#.

Dru - were you at 8-Mile CG? I thought I saw you stumbling around on Sunday morning. I was on my way out, though.

Drank much beer in Leavenworth. Oh yeah...and climbed a little bit too.

quote: Please make sure you upload to the correct directory and not to the base of the photo album!! I haven't figure out how to fix this yet.Doh! I figured it out. [ 10-14-2002, 08:46 AM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

I'll be in the same campground this weekend, but will probably be staggering around downtown l-worth Saturday night.

If they're the green ones you might be able to find them cheaper, but are still worth the $160 bones if they fit you. I saw some dude heading out to Liberty Ridge with them and some overgaitors.

The tough part about descending 3rd or 4th class for me is that I'm usually whipped and need to keep reminding myself to slow down and pay attention to what I'm doing. I like to "test" dubious looking rocks by pulling on them or pounding on them to see whether they're attached to rock or just stuck to moss. When you get lazy and careless is when bad stuff happens.

dingle berries.

Visualize whirled peas.

quote: "bolted so as to allow the climber to concentrate on the moves, not the fall". I don't know about you guys, but I've thought about the fall everytime I've climbed there.

The most dangerous part of climbing is still driving there.

ummm... New England Ice Climbing

quote: She said golf is cooler then Pub Club!!!!! Maybe Pub Club is cooler than her?