Figger_Eight

As long as you're working to complete (or near complete) muscle failure, your muscles are going to grow even if it's less than a minute.

quote: defend yourself with ice tools when confronted by the PinkertonsI was going into Canada through the Idaho border crossing when the border patrol guy asks to look in my car. He digs into my gear pulls out my ice tools and angrily says, "I thought you told me you weren't carrying any weapons!". It took about fifteen minutes of explaining before he let me go. Canadians... [ 11-12-2002, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

There are pros and cons to both places (I've instructed at both)... Index: you're climbing actual routes on actual rock. The rock might be drier, and shit...it's at Index, not Parkland. When the instruction is completed, people can dink around at a real climbing area. However, depending on the instructor/student ratio, effective teaching of more involved scenarios might be better elsewhere. Spire Rock: made specifically for larger groups. It is slicker than snot when wet though, but there are easy enough routes where it doesn't matter. There are cracks from offwidths to thin fingers you can play around on, and practicing gear placement on lead is less intimidating knowing there is ankle deep gravel on the ground if you blow it. I guess it depends on how many people show. I might suggest Spire for a group larger than 5 or 6. If it's smaller, Index would be the place to go. My 2 cents at least.

During wrestling practice in college my ear nearly got torn off. I needed 12 stitches to sew the upper portion back onto my head.

I'll be nice to you today, Caveman, because it's your special day. Anyone else who disagrees with...you're still a tool.

MattP is right. You guys are a bunch of tools. to the vets.

Back in the day the Spray forum was created to prevent the degradation of legitimate posts that might have the chance of starting a substantive discussion. This discussion board has a history of self regulating, and I'm with Matt on this one. Mike wrote a well thought out and well written post. Have some class and leave the crap out of it. If it was some random bitch like "Muir on Saturday" or a "I'm going to Banks Lake because there's two inches of ice" kind've post...that's another story. You guys do whatever you want, but if you get called out don't cry about it.

If you're leading every pitch...why hire a guide?

quote: It is a grim forecast mostly if you are thinking aboiut skiing in the resorts or you want to go yo-yo skiing in the woods. For ski mountaineering, the low snow years offer driveable roads to middle elevation Cascade trailheads and a lower overall avalanche hazard. Even if it turns out to be a 50% snowpack, there will be plenty to fill in the boulders and bridge the crevasses, and there will still be powder days.

Is being guided considered aid too?

quote: Why's that? Cause you kept her up all night trying to get a hard on? Bewhahaha

If you guys don't mind driving to T-Town, Spire Rock is hard to beat for going over that stuff on a man made structure. You can also lower people off the side and rig z-pulleys, construct hanging belays and do hand-offs. I'd be in for that [ 11-07-2002, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

I wonder if they're CE certified...? I would miss the clanking of metal rack when I walk around

It's a good idea. You should get one.

Ugh...sorry to hear about your accident. It seems reasonable what you did at the time, but I agree it might've been more prudent to have the first guy put more weight on the rope and have it backed up. To a speedy recovery

Unless you're going to hook or scratch into thin ice people are gonna be bashing it into submission...or destroying it completely. This thread cracks me up. Banks Lake is turning into the Exit 38 of ice climbing

Oh yeah...pants for sure. I have the Black Diamond Schoellers. I never leave home without them.

Having a softshell jacket in a marine climate (as your main jacket) is dumb.

[ 11-01-2002, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

Nike ACG Ascent watches at the outlet store in North Bend for $130 bucks. They're actually small enough to wear under a glove.

I posed the question to help me sort out what the previous posts were about...not to try to create a "case" against anyone. quote: Here's to all of us who carry on the seductive dance with Death that is CLIMBING . You're absolutely right.

IF carabiners are failing at loads less than their claimed kn limit...might there be a case?

A girth hitched knob of rock. I had to keep it weighted or else it would slip off. That was no fun.

It's all yours SK...just don't forget where you got it

"Your gaper-fu is no match for my Southern Filipino Tiger Spray-Fu!"