Figger_Eight

I second the Lysol and the letting them dry out advice. Anyways, stanky climbing shoes are kinda part of the deal.

I saw the new Harry Potter the other night. It's definitely better than the first. You should wait for it to come out on video though. I'm waiting for the Two Towers to come out

I'd rather keep a shop in business that hires guys who have 'tudes, but are end-users, than send my money to retailers over-seas or support companies that hire employees that have no idea what they're selling. Anyways...what 'tude are you talking about? The same one you're displaying in the last post?

Or you can support the local climbing shop. Just a thought.

Is it aid if you have webbed feet?

22,900 because the "you have mail" pop-up made me lose

score: 17655

How about getting some rx sunglasses with dark lenses like Oakleys?

Right on Matt. 70% of deaths caused by avalanches are a result of trauma, not suffocation. They're pretty much just body recovery tools most of the time.

quote: Woofle balls and silly 18lb stoves dont usually get bought by real climbers. You're only a new dog owner now...but you'll soon learn to appreciate the woofle ball.

quote: He kept asking us 'Cam Hooks?' with a silly look on his face. I think that's what Julie was trying to explain. They no longer deal in equipment that only a minority of climbers are interested in. If I needed cam hooks, ice tools or screws, plastic boots, etc, REI would be the last place I go. Everyone pretty much knows that by now, so if it shouldn't come as a surprise that happened.

I can french in my Arctis Exped's fine...and they aren't so shabby at frontpointing either. You really have to crank the laces. They weren't as good as my old Scarpa plastics, though.

Sorry...I can't do it Saturday.

So...Class 4+ means it's serious enough for most people to be roped up (class 5), but the rock is so rotten - why bother. Right? [ 11-15-2002, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

damn...me either.

quote: i've never heard the term "sandbag" used outside of climbing, so i always assumed that it's stemmed from the experience of getting on a climb and having it be so much harder than you were told that you feel like you're climbing with a big ole bag'o'sand tied to ya... That's where I thought it came from.

That 'trail' can be a pain in the butt for sure. It's funny how many people have climbed a relatively hard route, then get injured on the way back to the car. Hope he has a speedy recovery.

Get one of these, Matt.

I like what you're saying, but those are all famous last words too.

quote: 4x4 does not help as much as many people think in snow. when you go to whistler, every vehicle in the ditch is an suv cause they all think that 4x4 got them covered. but you will spinout just as much with 4x4 as otherwise. Yup...you're absolutely right. However when the chains required sign lights up over the passes, or up to Paradise, it's so much nicer to shift into 4 wheel drive than to have to put chains on. I almost got an Outback this summer. The Toyota and the Subaru dealerships were right next to each other. After test driving the truck I walked across to drive an Outback. Just then a little old lady pulled up in one, exclaimed it was perfect for her and told the salesman she was going to buy it. I promptly turned around and bought the truck. (Okay...so I have issues...)

I went through two subarus wagons before I got my Tacoma and I don't think I'd go back. The soobs were great ('89 wagon and '90 legacy) and I could get anywhere I needed to go, but having a truck with high clearance and a bed where I can chuck loads of gear, a dog, and move it all to one side so I can sleep back there makes it worth it. Also, not having to pull over to put on chains because I have a 4x4 makes it worth it.

quote: Make a "trip Report" or apparently useful beta which is actually totally false*. Then sit back and wait for some sucker to believe your useful beta and get in trouble and then for the name calling to start For instance if you drove by Drury Falls and it was half frozen write a detailed trip report about the difficult mixed climbing you encountered and shiny fresh titanium rustproof bolts you placed as you climbed leashless to send the first mixed ascent of this testpiece. rename the climb. say there was a logjam and you could walk across the river. rate it m7+. say there are 6 other lines up there you saw that you plan to go back and rapbolt. illustrate your TR with some pictures you cut and paste from the Petzl website. $5 bucks says TLG shows up first.

Start your dog early by not encouraging it to bark at every friggin thing that moves. Also, try to expose it to as many people and other dogs as possible so strangers aren't something to get excited about. I have a dog that will never be off leash so she stays tied up when I'm climbing, but she usually just chills and falls asleep.

Woton says it's in January...now you say it's this weekend? When is it?

Finding climbing partners at climbing areas can be hit or miss. The problem is the consequences can be disastrous. That said, I've met a lot of cool people at crags. Dude, I'm not so sure this is a great place for an 6 year old...most of the guys on here act like they're only 5. [ 11-12-2002, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]