Figger_Eight

GGKiss - It looks like two areas are being talked about here. I was making general statements about environmental impacts in caves - you're talking about overhanging climbing areas. Are those areas closed to climbing?

Save the bats!

I think that's the last user group I would want to be affiliated with as a climber. An steel gate barring access to the cave would be the same as the Muir toilet. If a small fixture is what it takes to prevent widespread impact, then so be it. I was mostly talking about the bat populations anyway. They can still fly in and out.

It's more about environmental impact than anything. It ain't a bolting debate.

No kidding.

No kidding.

Like: Climb for the experience, not for chasing numbers Easy going with a sense of humor Laughs when the going gets weird Dislike: Control freaks and "backseat drivers" Gets wigged out when they get nervous Chestbeaters

Tracker for sure. I think multiple burials are fine with them also - I guess with just like any beacon it takes practice. If I go with the gf, she gets the Tracker and I use the F1

1) Summited Denali 2) Climbed Air Guitar in the rain with Erden 3) Met some great new climbing partners

This would be "Mr. Respectable" flaming a new trad leader in another thread. Way to lead by example big guy!

Attaway Dryad

Um, no.

The Boys and Girls Club you dork.

I'm in.

Good point. Forget what I said.

check out a Pub Club...

I wish! Soon enough though... At the end of this semester I will be able to move wherever I like!!! I will be one of ya'll in no time at all... I'm not sure that's something to brag about

Wait till I get a hold of it

Can it be done without leaving the rock looking like crap? Just wondering.

First lull them into a fall sense of security...then BLAMMO! Attaway Trask

Yeah...but they let you get away with not wearing gaitors?

I'm down with that one.