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  1. Where's the grab?!
  2. JayB

    Is this OK?

    This explains the inverse correlation between direct foreign investment per capita and hunger, malnutrition, etc. Credible sources have informed me that a cabal of corporate interests has formed a lending syndicate headed by Dick Cheney, which intends to force third-world nations borrow immense sums of money under onerous terms in order to buy cloned livestock that will produce meat and milk products that when consumed, will make them overcome with the desire to further impoverish themselves by spending their meager-life savings on Halliburton logo items.
  3. I think it's worth getting to know the approach and the mountain a bit in the summer-time before hitting the mountain in the winter-time. More of a general preference than a hard-and-fast rule. Generally ignored when I'm heading out with someone who knows the mountain, and something I'm a bit more careful about if I'm taking along someone who's less experienced and/or expecting me to take care of most of the leading, routefinding, and what-have-you. I think that one tactic that has yet to be fully explored here is bringing along a bail-buddy, who will agree to hit the bail-button upon hearing you state the pre-agreed-upon code-word on the route. Once he hears the magic word, the bail-buddy artfully contrives a persuasive "It's Time to Bail," monologue that takes into account whatever natural phenomena happen to be most pertinent at the time "You know guys, I just really don't like the looks of that squirrel over there..." and thereby assumes the responsibility for pulling the plug. Weather moving in but the partner insists on moving ahead? Vague feelings of doubt and dread and doom that you can't really articulate or justify plaguing your every step? You need The Bail Buddy!
  4. I also think I should be singled out for praise an account of the keen sense of judgment that has enabled me to steer clear of the temptation to engage in futile political arguments on this site. I shudder to imagine how much time I would have wasted had I succumbed to the temptation to participate in any of those threads.
  5. Good points. If there's one thing that's characteristic feature of my contributions here that really stands out, it's the absence of holier-than-thou rants. It's really too bad that others can't learn from my example.
  6. JayB

    Is this OK?

    No - seriously, this is big news. You mean to tell me that technology has benefits *and* risks, and that you have to weigh the two? Someone had better convene a seminar to break the news of this revelation to all of the agricultural biologists out there.
  7. JayB

    Is this OK?

    Yes - these are stunning revelations that have hitherto escaped anyone's notice. I personally think that when you have a technology that has significant, obvious benefits and advantages, and has been deemed safe by the people most qualified to render such judgments, the smart thing to do is to overlook those benefits and shelve the technology based on the concerns brought up by the unqualified about fundamentally unknowable risks that may or may not materialize at some point in the future. Take vaccinations for example - we'd all have been much better off if Edward Jenner had kept *that* particular genie in the bottle. And that transistor-thingy, too. We may rue the day that we let our short-sighted fixation on it's obvious advantages overwhelm our dread of the remote and unknowable risks that they might one day present to humanity, and proceeded to introduce them into the world, despite not really knowing whether or not one-day all of mankind might be destroyed by autonomous toaster-robots that they might eventually spawn.
  8. JayB

    Is this OK?

    There is absolutely no difference whatsoever between food products generated by cloned livestock, and food products produced by "normal" livestock, which have themselves been subjected to thousands of years of massive genetic manipulation. None. Please read this book: Before speculating any further. The American public should be far more concerned about the risks that overconsumption of food has for their health, which are several orders of magnitude greater than those presented by any mode of selective breeding.
  9. JayB

    Is this OK?

    The FDA panel wasn't concerned the ethics of cloning, it was convened to generate factual data concerning the safety of foodstuffs produced by cloned animals. Given the time and expense associated with generating cloned animals, the odds that anyone's going to convert the clone to steaks or use it for milking are quite slim, at least for the forseeable future. Odds are the cloned animals will be used for breeding purposes. I agree that if people do not want to consume products produced by cloned animals because they think it is morally wrong to clone animals, then they shouldn't have to consume them. I personally think that the burden of doing so should fall solely on their shoulders. If enough people feel the way you do, then the odds are that someone will cater to your preferences. Seeing as there is no scientific basis whatsoever to object to agricultural cloning on safety grounds, I'd be interested to know what the nature of the ethical objection people have to cloning animals. Is this out of concern for the animals themselves, or because they feel uncomfortable with the use or implications of the technology?
  10. JayB

    Is this OK?

    I don't have a lot of faith in the general public's ability to render informed, scientifically sound judgments about anything involving genetics, much less genetic technology that their only acquaintance with comes courtesy of sci-fi movies.
  11. Tales of landings so fat that it doesn't even count as hucking are not helping with the East Coast despair. Currently resorting to snowboarding in the opposite stance, and rotating both ways on 1-footed 360-degree rotations on the strips of artificial snow for amusement. Will soon start shuffling through the web to dredge up some ballet moves. Things have been so warm and wet that the grass is still green on the bare slopes, in the White Mountains. If things continue I may get desperate enough to consider teaching myself how to telemark.
  12. I can remember hearing about Aleister Crowley's exploits as a climber, and scrolling through a bit of his "Confessions," online somewhere. There's quite a bit of interesting information there about the politics and characters involved in turn-of-the-century English climbing.
  13. Click to See Artist's Representation of Prole in 30 Years Not only amusting, but prophetically accurate, I'd wager, but probably NSFW.
  14. "JayB: Ask Fairweather if he'll share his gift with you." You mean I'm not already there?
  15. Several years ago, my best friend and I had been planning a hut-to-hut trip through the landscape encompassed by the 10th Mountain Division's cabins, when dueling ACL/MCL incidents left both of us in no-condition to even contemplate skiing. We had already locked in the vacation time and, the fact that he'd be leaving Colorado for his next duty station in just over a month made us scramble for an alternative. After quite a bit of head scratching, "Hmmm...What kind of prolonged outdoor activity that one can engage in no more than a days' drive from Colorado goes best with freshly-snapped ligaments..." we settled on a week-long canoe trip into the canyons found flanking the shores of Lake Powell in its Escalante Arm. What followed was a series of minor debacles, most of which I recorded in a trip-report I intended to share with my closest friends and my family. I was scrolling through my hard-drive the other day, looking for something else, when I happened upon the file, and remembered a passage that seemed kind of appropos considering the events on Mount Hood and the ensuing media frenzy. Here's the passage: "Gradually my own thoughts turned away from Ruess and back to our own situation. Although I had been thoroughly enjoying this outing, I had been beset by a certain amount of anxiety ever since we passed the midpoint of the Hole-in-the-Rock. More specifically, I was trying to figure out just how in the hell we were going to get the canoe back to the truck. Upon the first realization that we had passed the point of no return, and would not be able to get out the way we came, it was easy enough to shrug off a problem that was little more than an abstraction at that point and get back to the slowering.* Once that was over with I had hoped that eventually we would paddle around, survey the landscape, and a solution would….present itself to us, but the walls only seemed to grow steeper and more precipitous with each stroke of the paddle. We broke out the map and looked for any marinas or roads in the vicinity that we may have overlooked, but saw none. We discussed having one guy paddle the canoe to a marina at Halls crossing and the other going for the truck - for about a second - before realizing that such a course of action had a very high probability of being recreated in a cheap dramatization on the Outdoor Life Network, in which the scene of our parting – one heading for the truck on foot, on paddling towards the darkening horizon - would be accompanied by a grave declaration that “This was a miscalculation that would cost them dearly in the days ahead....” After chronicling an ever-escalating series of small-but-rapidly-compounding blunders that ultimately resulted in our demise, the viewers would no doubt be treated to a post-mortem analysis by at least one overweight “Full-time engineer, former part-time Search-and-Rescue Team Member” type who would shake his head in morbid befuddlement as he thoughtfully bemoaned our woeful lack of preparation and experience, evinced in this case by the conspicous absence of the requisite flare-gun, satellite phone, and personal-locator-beacon. From his perspective, these objects would no doubt be cited as simple rudiments of preparedness that any desert sojourner with a modicum of common sense would be sure to pack along for the average day hike, let alone a week-long paddle in the depths of winter. There was also a distinct possibility that the viewing public would be treated to another staple of the “Adventure Gone Bad” show - the Indian thoughtfully pondering our fate. The segment would commence with a profile shot of The Wise One perched atop a desolate mesa, ruefully contemplating our fate while surveying the stark contours of his ancestral homeland. “This…is the land…of the four winds. The North…The South….The East…The West. They have spoken….to my people….” Then they’d finish things off with the landscape-flyover shot, itself accompanied by the voiceover in which the Oracle of Ancient Wisdom somberly meditates on our fate and issues forth wise pronouncements which leave no doubt that if…if only...we had only listened to…the voice of the land - which he knew for a fact had been belting-out a literal chorus of warnings to us at the top of its lungs for days on end - we might have been spared our tragic end. I could see millions of overweight housewives in pastel sweatsuits sitting on pottery barn recliners, knowingly nodding along in unison as The Old One dispensed wisdom channeled from the Earth itself, then turning to their still more corpulent, comatose, recliner-bound husbands, throwing their hands up in disbelief and shaking their heads while exclaiming in suitably exasperated tones “I mean, I thought like..everyone knew that you have to listen to the voice of the Earth Spirit! I mean this was the goddamned Earth Sprit! Talking to…THEM! But did they listen…nooooo” before throwing up her hands in disgust and turning back to the sale section of the latest Land’s End catalogue. “Hmmm. The desert-sage-colored polar-fleece bathrobe with the matching slippers and the optional Ben-and-Jerry’s pint-cozy really would go well with the scented candle-set on page 38….” The prospect of being second-guessed by several million members of the genus sedentarius americanus while channel-surfing between episodes of “Trading Spaces” was chilling indeed, and we immediately set about formulating a better plan. Or rather, agreed to set about formulating a better plan once we got back to the campsite. As we made our way back through the shadowy confines of Davis Gulch I had a minor epiphany concerning the nature of adventure. I realized that my own definition of “adventure” pretty much included just about anything that entailed a bit of risk in the outdoors, with the level of adventure increasing in direct proportion to the amount of damage one’s body would likely sustain if something were to go wrong. In light of our present circumstances, however, I began to reconsider this view. An increasing level of risk did not necessarily mean an increasing level of adventure, I thought, but rather an increasing level of risk simply meant an increasing level of, well - risk - and risk, I was beginning to see, was not necessarily the same thing as adventure. Adventure meant uncertainty, an inability to determine in advance what the outcome or resolution of a particular journey would be. The greater the uncertainty, the greater the adventure involved in a particular exploit. Skydiving, for example, involves a fair amount of risk but very little in the way of adventure as there are only two possible outcomes; you’ll either impart a fair amount of momentum to the earth upon impact if your chute doesn’t open, or return to the earth at a much lower velocity if it does. Of your final destination there is no doubt. As we drew nearer to the water I continued to ponder the nature of adventure still further, and concluded that the greatest adventures involved scenarios which combined two essential components; the greatest number of possible outcomes, and the lowest probability that any of those possible outcomes results in survival. A necessary correlate of this theory of adventures, then, is that the more interesting the adventure is to read about, the less pleasant it was for the protagonist to endure. So by that definition I concluded that we were in the midst of an honest-to-goodness adventure, albeit a minor one, as at present I had no idea how we were going to get the canoe out of the lake and back to the truck. We would, of course, be able to get ourselves and the rest of our gear back to the truck without too much difficulty, so the number of probable outcomes involving the two of us failing to make it to the canyon rim and/or the occupants of a 54 foot houseboat spotting our skeletal remains doggedly clutching the canoe at the base of the cliffline were very few indeed. At the same time, however, I never really viewed leaving the canoe behind as a viable option, as doing so would necessitate paying for it, which would in turn plunge me into the depths of a fiscal adventure that I would endure just about any hardship short of amputation to avoid." *Definition of Slowering. "Homeboy was clearly the master of understatement. I shook my head, squinted my eyes, and read it again just in case I had missed something, perhaps an asterisk at the conclusion of the paragraph that would direct the reader’s eyes to a sentence explaining that the preceding paragraph was written in the author’s own private code-language. Perhaps it would further explain that in his language the verb “Drove” meant “Negotiated terrain that would rip the undercarriage and three-fourths of the passenger compartment off-of a typical sedan. Owners of four wheel drive vehicles should come equipped not only with adequate clearance, but a healthy disregard, if not outright contempt, for their vehicle if they wish to transverse it.” Finding no such clues anywhere on the sheet, we went on to discover for ourselves what his private interpretations of words like “lowering” and “sliding” meant in practice. In its conventional use, the word lowering implies a significant degree of control over the object that one is moving from a greater to lower height. Sliding entails the movement of one body across the surface of another, and suggests that the motion in question is not restrained by a significant amount of friction. The deeper we descended into the narrow confines of this tilted sandstone corridor, the less our tactics came to resemble anything like the orthodox meaning of these words. The two became one, and we reverted to something resembling a primitive fusion of the two. Slowering. As is often the case with neologisms, the term slowering is ripe with nuance, and in order to fully apprehend all that it entails one must often revert to further explanation and example. Slowering involves elements of sliding and lowering minus the rational criteria by which one decides to use one or the other. It contains components of both while lacking the advantages of either. One doesn’t choose to slower an object - it just happens on its own, a spontaneous occurrence made possible only by the haphazard interplay of uneven ground and gravity. For us slowering was defined by the guy at one end of the canoe spewing forth a constant stream of exotic profanity and straining to arrest the impending free-fall of the canoe while he lowered it down yet another #$%*ing gritty eight foot step while crossing his fingers and hoping that he wouldn’t lose his %#$#ing footing and blow out the rest of the ligaments in his $#@*ing knee in the process. It also meant the guy at the bottom of the step silently swearing that if that weak-assed son-of-a-bitch couldn’t hang on to the *@$#ing end of the the goddamned boat until he could at least get his %#$ing hands on the goddamned thing and keep the bow from crashing into the *%#ing rocks again he was just going to chuck the %#*ing thing right off the edge of the %$#ing cliff and get it over with. Slowly the welfare of the canoe’s hitherto unblemished exterior beacame quite a bit less important than preventing several months worth of additional rehab, and after surmounting a succession of ever more challenging obstacles on our way down we began to measure our success not by how well we kept the canoe off of the rocks, but by the skill with which we had used the friction afforded by the rocks to control the canoe’s speed and trajectory. We took the fact that despite all of the gouges we’d allowed to defile the hull, we had yet to allow the rocks to tear a gash straight through it as tangible proof of our skill. By the time we had reached what we hoped was the midpoint of the ravine we’d stripped so many ribbons of plastic off of the bottom that we began to suspect that we’d be able to see through it in places if we were to hold it up to the sunlight, which was by now fading as quickly as our energy and enthusiasm." Slowering. The scenery. Photo upside down (reflection on top, sky on bottom). En-route to the happy ending. Note duct-tape on hull.
  16. Anytime.
  17. Virendra - this is quite the roster of convictions that have emerged along the path to the pinnacle of enlightenment that you currently occupy. Aside from the "100% Jewish-Controlled Media," and the "9-11 Was an Inside Job" riff, do you have any other revelations that you'll deign to share with the rest of us? I always find it curious when reluctant prophets of truth such as yourself, world-weary bearers of intelligence, insight, and analytical capacity that enable them to apprehend the true nature of things while the rest of us are content to watch the shadows dancing about on the back of the cave - seem overmatched by the challenges posed by elementary syntax and grammar, can only offer allusions to secret-knowledge or articles of faith when asked to defend their conclusions, and share a worldview with the most gullible, paranoid, ill-read, unlearned, and unwashed elements of our society.
  18. Just got a kilo today. Couple that with the in-home Olympic set-up and the absence of anything better to do during a wet and warm East Coast winter and its... VNQ1JS1V6WA
  19. "Pretty sure that Jesus doesn't give a fuck what letter is printed next to your name, and isn't too thrilled with the way either political party operates. Claiming Jesus to be a member of your political or military team is a dangerous and in my opinion, misguided thing to do." "Yoooo saideet mangh... NO-bady fucksweeth da Jesus...." niWRAREk8Dk
  20. Repent, blasphemer, repent. Speak not these vile truths....
  21. Sounds like a real-catch. Prole, there *is* someone out there for you. Looks like a match made in heaven, though she may outweigh you. Her ad reminds me of the Chris Farley anchorman skit from SNL. I'm not your typical "News Personality." [Fingers making air-quotes in the air for emphasis]. I don't have an "Engaging Smile," or an "Effervescent Personality." I'm not known for my "Pretty Face." I dont "Bathe." When children see me, they're "Scared," and "Run Away." I don't "Floss" Etc, etc, etc. Delivered much the same way as the Matt Foley Skits.. k_gDVac5ylM
  22. JayB

    The Grundle

    Wow. Wrong thread to click on during lunch. I haven't been on a long-enough trip to have to worry about this sort of thing for years and years - but I seem to recall folks packing along a trial sized baby-wipe packet for hygiene enhancement.
  23. If your interest was sincere, you wouldn't seem so churlish. I'm quite sincere. Have I misread you somehow, or is this something that you actually have to wrestle with?
  24. I'd extend the "not ideal" classification to a considerably broader segment of the population than myself, but whatever. On to another subject. Pardon me for this digression, which will no doubt seem a tad churlish coming on the heels of your well-wishes, but your comments here suggest that you are involved in attempts to invest in real estate to turn a profit. This seems to be profoundly incongruous with your oft-stated beliefs, your innermost convictions about the nature of right and wrong, and hardly a necessary activity given the range and scope of the opportunities that this country provides to sustain oneself. I'm hardly a paragon of uprightness myself, and there aren't many folks who are able to cruise through life without compromising their ideals in some fashion or another from time to time, but I really can't imagine earning my income by voluntarily engaging in activities - every single day - that were a complete contravention of my most deeply rooted principles. Am I completely off base here, or is this something that you have to contend with?
  25. JayB

    Screw the MLU's

    Maybe that forum will see a similar surge in visitation when and if news of the next Enumclaw incident hits the airwaves. I wonder Google sells banner advertising on that site.
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