jhamaker

Meaningless numbers. What is the risk per hour or per day of activity? Come now, I know there are actuaries lurking here.

Have fun! I've not done a long trip in the ONP since the park started trying to charge large sums of money for walks in the park. I hear they want you to carry bear cans this summer. Along the ridge you won't have much access to water or bear-wires. Lots of elevation loss and gain. Nice area. Nice loop! If you stay in the valleys, you can get away w/ an eight ounce sil-tarp for shelter!

I don't take Pyramids etc above treeline if snow and high winds could happen - too hard to nail down the edges to keep the snow out. I like the extra space when you place a (Pyramid) over a pit. Many, many other benifits. For big dumps (arround a foot or more) I've had great success digging a trench arround the (Pyramid) to give the snow a place to go and prevent the (Pyramid) from colapsing.

>> If you can't or don't want to lead, then TR. << I agree. Adding bolts says "even though others, including the FA folks climb this with the bolts and pro available, I don't like it, and I will destroy the experience for all better, bolder and future climbers for all time." Surley there are other climbs in your comfort zone. Probably w/ in 100 ft of the climb in question.

Recently the Park Svc has been placing pickets up to Denali Pass for the "climbing" season. But as ryland_moore mentioned, they can be burried. If they are burried in soft snow of course, you won't need crampons.

Looking at the weather, I'm gonna go w/ Frenchman's Coulee.

Took me a recon to find it too. Have a nice adventure. More of an adventure would be the looseish IV/V 5.9 starting in a gully and finishing at the main pk of Garfield.

West Butt Denali, yes if they fit over your overboots nicely. Lots of snow, very little ice untill later season. Lots or others kicking nice steps. Also lots of fixed lines. Stuart - only if all the rime is melted out/snowcovered. Thin ice and Al crampons don't mix well.

Don't forget barametric altimeter. I've been wafling too. I decided to go cheap and not buy one that maps. I don't like the maping resolution available at this point. Others disagree.

Since I never drove, I can't tell you where, just that it exists. I think we did a lot of climbing up against the Pyrenees. Lots of canyons to the SE w/ climbing - how long to Verdun? Calanques? You could take a couchette after work, climb for the wk-end, then couchette back and be ready in the am! Contact the Syndicat d'Initiative, le CRIJ, Jeuness et Sports, etc. There is always buildering and climbing the cement dike downtown. Ask your liason to get you in touch personaly w/ a climber where you'll be working. Web sites: http://www.chez.com/z0rglub/ http://i.maka.free.fr/Articles/toulouse.htm http://escalade.camptocamp.com/forums/read.php?f=19&i=11465&t=11465 http://www.urban-climbing.com/ Adresses: SKI LOISIRS AEROSPATIALE SECTION MONTAGNE 20 ch. de Garric, 31200 TOULOUSE Tél. : 05 34 40 96 70 Fax : 05 34 40 96 79 Activités : Ski alpin, escalade TOULOUSE UNIVERSITE MONTAGNE, 50 ch. de Rapouti 31810 Le VERNET Tél : 05 61 08 72 42 Activités : Cascade de glace, alpinisme, canyonisme, escalade, raquette, via ferrata L'ESCAPADE CLUB Z.I. de Montaudran 5, rue Jean Rodier 31400 TOULOUSE Tél. : 05 61 34 15 65 Fax : 05 61 34 94 40 escapade.club@mageos.com, escapade.club.free.fr. TOULOUSE ELECTROGAZ CLUB SECTION MONTAGNE, 66, rue du Bearnais, BP 7049 31069 TOULOUSE Cedex 07 Tél. : 06.82.82.32.41. Activités : alpinisme, escalade, randonnée C.A.F. TOULOUSE, 3 rue de L'orient 31000 TOULOUSE Tél. 05.61.63.74.42 Fax 05.61.63.96.60 clubalpintoulouse@wanadoo.fr. A.S. UNIVERSITE P.SABATIER SECTION MONTAGNE, Service des Sports, 118, route de Narbonne, 31062 TOULOUSE Cedex MURET MONTAGNE, 11, rue Castelvielh, 31600 MURET Tél. 05 61 56 24 77 Activités : Cascade de glace, escalade, randonnée, raquette, ski-alpinisme. SALSA MONTAGNE, B.P. 1149, 1 av. Paul Ourliac, 31036 TOULOUSE Cedex 1 Activités : alpinisme, canyonisme, escalade, randonnée. PIBRAC Ski Escalade Randonnée, 2 bd des Ecoles, 31820 PIBRAC Tél. : 05 61 06 55 83 PYRENE c/o CHLOE Valembois 5 rue Robespierre 31400 TOULOUSE Tél. : 05.61.71.94.35 pyrene@club.ffme.fr, pyrene.escalade.chez.tiscali.fr. A.S. MATRA TOULOUSE SECTION MONTAGNE, 31 av. des Cosmonautes 31402 TOULOUSE Cedex, Tél. : 05.61.62.35.07. A SOLO 1 imp. Lapujade 31200 TOULOUSE Tél. : 05.34.25.01.45 www.a-solo.net SUPAERO c/o Monsieur Sarrebressolles B.P. 4032 31055 TOULOUSE Cedex, Tél. : 05.62.17.82.74 Fax 05.62.17.82.74, Bertrand.Sarrebressolles@supaero.fr. Teaching where? Universite de Toulouse?

Constance is my nemisis. I've yet to summit after 4 or 5 trips. Mabey I'll stop trying in the winter. Mabey I'm unconsiously addicted to the scenic trail to Lk Constance.

Who climbed here last? I remember one missing anchor when rappelling down early last yr. Rumor has it that an add'l anchor was pulled? by the Eco-challenge folks? And they added random bolts? So what is the latest from Blueberry Hill?

I would be up for a few days at Smith. Skyline Ridge, the 5.10- sport that tops out on Smith Rk Group, stuff over by Marsupial crags, Monkey Face (Pioneer rt) . . . James 206-fivefive"oh"-7543 perma-cell

OK, I lied. My contact info is jhamakeratttoperamaildotttcom 206-fiverfiverOh 7543

>>maybe, if i get a job by tues i'll go. (i have a interview on tues) wanna come? << I don't want to go to your interview w/ you, but if you wanna carpool to RR and do some climbing, drop me a line. (contact info above)

Lv Fri, back Sun (or Mon) Lots of stuff put up in the last 5 yrs I have not been on yet. I'll do anything, esp. if it's new, in the 5.7 to 5.10+ range. Best to e-mail me at jhamakeratoperamaildotcomunist or call two"0"six five,five, zero, 7543

Let's get this show on the road! Wanna meet up at Smith this wk-end then plan RR from there?

I like short and fat and soft randonee for mountains. At worse they are a pair of slow-shoes. At best, they are light, manuver instantly, are light, are easy to jump turn, short skiis mean short skins - light. They also make great pickets. Soft means roller coaster rides over strusturgi, sun-cups and logs. Fat tips and extreem side-cut means more work breaking trail and difficulty w/ icey side-hilling. Like any ski package, start w/ the boot, then get the rest. Give some thought to liner replacement, sole, cramponability, weight, walkability, durrability. Can you deal w/ everything w/ mittens?

When climbing this route, if there is anyone below you, rap off the BACKSIDE and WALK down.

How about mid-wk next wk?

What about S side access to RR grade and Boulder?

How about a carpool from Spokane and one from Puget Sound? I can lv earlier/ stay latter. I have a choice of two cars. One can hold 3 w/ gear, the other 7 w/ gear. As I mentioned earlier, I'm especialy intersted in grade III's and IV's up to 5.10 A 2.

How about Ruth/Icy or Boulder Gl on Baker Tue / Wed? jrh 206-5five0- seven5for3

It just so happens I have an extra climbing partner I could lend to your friend if you wanted to hook up w/ me to do more interesting, longer rts.

So, you're still going?