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I never said that moron. What I said, if you could read, was that boarders, skiiers, or even snowshoeers should get the hell off the main trail or run, if they want to sit around doing whatever. Jeez FDA, do I have to 'splain everythin to ya?

What George says, goes, you cockbite. Get a clue odoriferous one.

This topic is a little touchy, IMHO, because we love our big cars, trucks, SUVs we always have, YES myself included. We also know that our dependence on foreign oil has become an Achilles heel for the U.S. Personally I would love it if we could thumb our noses at the OPEC nations when they threaten to cutback on oil production. It would be great if we didn't have to police them so much to protect the flow of oil to our country. If we look at our trucks, the big gas and diesel trucks we know and love so well, they were designed to haul heavy loads, which they do admirably . They really weren't meant to be commuter vechicles and many use them for this purpose only. I didn't use my Expedition for commuting back when, I did my research and bought a cheaper Sub. Impreza. What's wrong with coming up with fossil fuel alternatives, why not work to make our cars more efficient? In the long run, what will be more important driving big inefficient vehicles thereby creating more dependency on foreign oil (and quite possibly fattening terrorist coffers) or driving smaller more efficient cars and being able to stick it to those who harbor and support terrorists. Stick to 'em where it hurts, in the pocket book. It's not a matter of what we deserve, whether we've earned the 'right' to drive a large expensive vehicle but the direct cost of operating the vehicle and the intangible costs too.... Kind of like wanting to have our cake and eat too.... This is not meant as a slam for or against anyone here, just trying to look at this from a different angle.

Don't bolt the coral.

I hear ya outlaw. I cut for G&D Logging in Darrington for a few months back when I was young, dumb and full a' cum. Drove log truck too...that was a trip. Now I want someone licensed and insured in case of a fuckup.

Exactly. If SC would slow down two seconds to read my post, he'd notice where I mentioned that these twin 100 ft'ers are within about two feet of my livingroom, and also very close to the neighbor's house. Our houses are packed in here at the beach. There's NO fucking place to just drop the fuckers or I'd do it myself (ex-logger). So go play with yo stiffy SC and come back with a better attitude. Tramp!

Tell ya what Kurt. You come over and join me, and we'll chow that shit right up. Hey, we can wash it down with some sour milk. bwahahaha

SC, u is so dumb when i say fuck you, you say you're welcome

Is it true that fat gurlz make better luverz?

I fail to see the connection between fuel and terrorists. This is a connection certain factions want you to believe. Personally, I think they've been watching too many movies and television and actually believe the crap that they see there.

That's about what I figured. Chef Boyardee it is then.

Only when I ride a bicycle. For some reason it made me sterile.

I'm gonna ask you experts- I want to cook up some costco bacon that's been opened and in my fridge for about a month. Smells fine, only a touch of green on the edges. Is it still good? I'm starvin'

so much to do - so little time

help me

no pard. that's chlamydia

How would I dress for that, Scot?

DDT is actually a very good mosquito killer and is still used widely in Africa and other countries not so hung up on "the right thing".

shit, now ya got me hankerin' for some stuffed green peppers. Guess I better go shopping.

Now even I might show up for that. Much closer to home. The Roadhouse - Lake Goodwin

lift kits and knobbies

By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 — Ratcheting up the debate over sport utility vehicles, new television commercials suggest that people who buy the vehicles are supporting terrorists. The commercials are so provocative that some television stations are refusing to run them. Patterned after the commercials that try to discourage drug use by suggesting that profits from illegal drugs go to terrorists, the new commercials say that money for gas needed for S.U.V.'s goes to terrorists. "This is George," a girl's voice says of an oblivious man at a gas station. "This is the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The screen then shows a map of the Middle East. "These are the countries where the executives bought the oil that made the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The picture switches to a scene of armed terrorists in a desert. "And these are the terrorists who get money from those countries every time George fills up his S.U.V." A second commercial depicts a series of ordinary Americans saying things like: "I helped hijack an airplane"; "I gave money to a terrorist training camp in a foreign country"; "What if I need to go off-road?" At the close, the screen is filled with the words: "What is your S.U.V. doing to our national security?" The two 30-second commercials are the brainchild of the author and columnist Arianna Huffington. Her target audience, she said, is Detroit and Congress, especially the Republicans and Democrats who last year voted against a bill, sponsored by Senators John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, that would have raised fuel-efficiency standards. Spokesmen for the automakers dismissed the commercials. Eron Shosteck, a spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, said of Ms. Huffington, "Her opinion is out-voted every year by Americans who buy S.U.V.'s for their safety, comfort and versatility." He said that S.U.V.'s now account for 21 percent of the market. In an interview, Senator Kerry distanced himself from the commercials. He said that rather than oppose S.U.V.'s outright, he believed they should be more efficient. "I haven't seen these commercials," he said, "but anybody can drive as large an S.U.V. as they want, though it can be more efficient than it is today." Ms. Huffington's group, which calls itself the Detroit Project, has bought almost $200,000 of air time for the commercials, to run from Sunday to Thursday. While the group may lose some viewers if stations refuse to run the advertisements, the message is attracting attention through news coverage. The advertisements are to be broadcast on "Meet The Press," "Face the Nation" and "This Week With George Stephanopoulos" in Detroit, Los Angeles, New York and Washington. But some local affiliates say they will not run them. At the ABC affiliate in New York, Art Moore, director of programming, said, "There were a lot of statements being made that were not backed up, and they're talking about hot-button issues." Ms. Huffington said she got the idea for the commercials while watching the antidrug commercials, sponsored by the Bush administration. In her syndicated column, she asked readers if they would be willing to pay for "a people's ad campaign to jolt our leaders into reality." She said she received 5,000 e-mail messages and eventually raised $50,000 from the public. Bigger contributors included Steve Bing, the film producer; Larry David, the comedian and "Seinfeld" co-creator; and Norman Lear, the television producer.

Dwayner, I see your stay at the Betty Ford Clinic was short lived.

I agree with catshit. Trucks and SUV's are cat's ass for PNW climbers. Screw the gas mileage and the enviro-wackos. When you just have to get there, get a Hummer.