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quote: Originally posted by iain: quote:Originally posted by fleblebleb: Scotterix Is that some character from the Asterix cartoons? Yup, also posts here.

Hey Dennis-the-troll why don't you go scuba dive in the shit pits next to the Muir Hut? Then Scotterix will probably have another fit and we'll all have another hundred pages of excellent spray to look forward to!

I have a Whisperlite and a fancy Primus cartridge stove. The Whisperlite is really nice, but it has to be cleaned thoroughly every now and then. And it's tricky to prime it without the blowtorch/flamethrower effect. The Primus is tiny, very light, and I really like it. The downside is that they're ridiculously expensive - I found one on sale after waiting and waiting... I haven't used it above 7000' yet, but at 6800' it worked like a champ. Why is the Bibler system better than the MSR? Does it enclose the entire stove? Isn't that a lot heavier? What's durability got to do with it, how much abuse is a stove hanging setup going to take?

No, that's only used for rescue situations.

Buy the kid a bolt kit?

And this... ----- The legislation I just mentioned... -- Dave Dittrich dittrich@speakeasy.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:19:43 -0700 From: Scott Silver To: Scott Silver Subject: Permanent Recreation Fee Legislation Introduced The second, of several recreation-fee and recreation-infrastructure pieces of legislation was introduced in the Senate on Tuesday of this week. The bill can be read at: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:S2607: It should some as NO SURPRISE that this legislation was introduced during the American Recreation Coalition's "Great Outdoors Week" (www.funoutdoors.com). I only wish I or some member of the general public could have been inside the meetings ARC must have had with the sponsor of this legislation, Senator Bingaman (D-NM). This bill appears to be on an extreme fast tract. A Senate hearing has already been set for next week, (June 19, 2002 at 9:30 AM) http://energy.senate.gov/cfdocs/e_witnesslist.cfm?id=288 Needless to say ... this is "crunch time" for everyone who has been working so hard to end forest fees!! With the national Day of Action to end forest fees coming up on Saturday, I wish to say "Good Luck" and offer a sincere "THANK YOU" to everyone who will be participating. Thirty Demonstrations are scheduled in nine States, thanks to the help and efforts of so many of you copied on this message. When we all shout in unison on Saturday it will be our voice that is heard above the voice of the recreation special-interests for whom the Recreation Fee Demonstration Program has been created. Day of Action details can be viewed at: http://www.wildwilderness.org/docs/2002doa.htm Scott PS... The first bill in the current series of recreation-fee-related bills applies only to the National Parks. That bill can be read at: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:S2473 and it was introduced by Senator Craig Thomas (R-WY). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Scott Silver Wild Wilderness 248 NW Wilmington Ave. Bend, OR 97701 phone: 541-385-5261 e-mail: ssilver@wildwilderness.org Internet: http://www.wildwilderness.org June 15, 2002 is National Day of Action to PROTEST FOREST FEES. For additional information contact us or see: http://www.wildwilderness.org/docs/2002doa.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This just posted to the UW climbers club mailing list. ----- Final call. National Fee Demo day of protest is tomorrow in Seattle at REI at 11:00. A good editorial ran in the P-I today about it: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/74540_feedemo14.shtml My research (and a new letter) is at: http://eve.speakeasy.org/~dittrich/nwba/end-the-fdp.html (I wish I could be there, but I have to fly out of town early tomorrow morning. I hope the turnout is high, as Congress just introduced fast-track legislation to make fees permanent. Call or write today, and show up for the protest, or fees may become permanent in a couple of weeks!) -- Dave Dittrich dittrich@speakeasy.net

It's http://www.summitloft.com/.

High resolution atmospheric pressure graphs for Seattle. Geeky, but sehr cool [ 06-05-2002, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: fleblebleb ]

Crossing my fingers hoping Bronco doesn't run into Bug on the trail... heh...

Whatever Cavey. I'll do as I damn well please

I have a pair of those, the steel version with the Scottish toe (like the picture) and the step-in heel (not like the picture). They don't work on tele boots because the tele boot doesn't fit between the two metal thingies that the plastic toe strap is attached to... They're great crampons though.

The more people I go on trips with, the more nice food tricks I learn, so I figure this might make an interesting thread... what food do you people like to bring on multi-day trips?

That @#$% toe always gets in the way. I'd like to be able to use the same crampons for plastic tele boots and soft leather hikers/sneakers. Anybody have a rec? Preferrably aluminum ones?

Barrabes has a good price on the Grivel 360. That's a nice screw, heh.

This whole thread became a polish joke.

Hey Polish dude, Robert from Bellingham, you weren't quite as unpleasant in person. What's up with the vitriol on-line? What the hell did those poor folks on Hood do to you? How long has it been since you practiced ice axe arrests while tangled up in three ropes and eight other bodies? BTW, anybody want to open a betting pool on Agent Orangutan/stupidpolishsnob's new screenname?

Here are two links to Seattle PI stories - http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134464429_webhood30.html http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/72597_hood30ww.shtml

Taped a heat pack to the GPS... sheer brilliance... Sounds like this definitely helped get you out of trouble - I will be taping heat packs to all my electronics now

This was posted to the UW climbers club mailing list... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Those of you who were on the list last year know that I am a big opponent of the Fee Demonstration program. In case you haven't seen my reasons yet, they are here: http://eve.speakeasy.net/~dittrich/nwba/end-the-fdp.html I encourage everyone to join us in a protest to be held on June 15 against this program. The Bush Administration, and some in Congress, are currently pushing for legislation to make these fees PERMANENT, two years ahead of the already twice extended scheduled deadline for this "demonstration". The Forest Service consistantly says the public accepts these fees, while at the same time dismissing any and all protests (and aggressively ticketing and harassing anyone who tries to show opposition). This is VERY anti-democratic, and the only way to stop it is for you to stand up to it. Join us! P.S. Please spread this flyer to other lists with active outdoors people and your friends and family. Encourage them all (and you too!) to write letters to the editor, your Congressional representatives, and the Office of the President. Please do this today. -- Dave Dittrich dittrich@speakeasy.net ============================================================ Hey Hikers, Fishers, Paddlers, Climbers, and other folks! Do you love to visit our national forests? Do you resent paying trail fees just to walk in the woods? Come join our Rally! Free the Forests - End Fee Demo! When: Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 11am Where: Outside the downtown Seattle REI Corner of Yale and John Bring a sign and a friend... Demonstrate against Fee Demo! ______________________________________________________________ "Fee Demo" is a US Forest Service and BLM "demonstration" program to see if Americans will tolerate paying fees to use our public lands. Since there are no provisions within the program to register opposition, we're holding our own demonstration against this pay-to-play ripoff. Fee-Demo is Un-Democratic because it denies all citizens equal access to enjoy our public lands. Fee-Demo is Un-Reasonable because it makes us pay for what we already own, while timber companies, miners, and grazers get subsidized by taxpayers. Fee-Demo is Un-American because it violates our nation's long held tradition of free access to wild lands. _______________________________________________________________ Fee-Demo is opposed by over 240 groups, including: The Access Fund, American Canoe Association, International Mountain Biking Association, Sierra Club, Federation of Western Outdoors Clubs, Cascade Mountain Backpackers, North Cascades Conservation Council, Pilchuk & Ranier Audubon Societies, Back Country Horsemen of Washington - Inland Empire Chapter, NW Ecosystem Alliance, and many individuals just like you! For more information: www.wildwilderness.org www.freeourforests.org Local contact: Marina (206) 527-3578 ===============================end============================= [ 05-26-2002, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: fleblebleb ]

Yea to daisies, except they're a bit of a luxury - expensive and a pain to rack. Two for sport climbing - clip into each anchor bolt before threading and rapping. Why bother clipping the rope into the anchor if you're going to untie from it anyway? Two for aiding, for sure. One or none for trad or alpine or ice? Too much other stuff on the harness and you also need to have one or preferably two prusik loops to get up the rope or escape a belay or set up a Z-pulley or whatever. Unless you anticipate having to aid, then two daisies.

Try some Acopas, Jim Nelson has them at Pro Mountain Sports.

... your rack has a chainsaw next to the 5' crowbar.

... you think of crampons as handy tools for snow, ice and alder.

Hey! There were 55! Did you leave out the Icelander? Shame on you! He just finished walking to both poles and climbing the seven summits, in less time than it's been done before I think. http://www.7t.is/