Fairweather

If liberals admit who they really are pre-election day; they lose every time. The only way they attain office, is to misrepresent themselves ala Hillary Clinton.

Doctors versus lawyers. I wonder how Matt will vote? I haven't had this much fun since Mackaw Tribe v Sea Shepherd.

Speak for yourself, Josh. I work 55-60 hrs/week and have never posted - or even viewed this site from my office terminal. You'll note my absence here between the hours of 6am and 5-6 pm.

Welcome aboard, Catbird! Your card is in the mail.

Easy. Just because you, a law abiding, hard-working citizen own a firearm does not mean you should tolerate your mentally ill, alcoholic, drug-house neighbor down the street arming himself. You go to the authorities....or take other 'preemptive' measures.

Na. Those teens were out swimming today. I hear the Straits of Juan de Fuca are nice around the Victoria area this time of year. And The Columbia River can be a great swim just downstream from that BC mine that belches mercury blobs into the water. ...Or maybe they were listening to Vancouver talk radio. Oh - that's right; talk radio exists only at the behest of the state in Canada. No Limbaugh's or dissent allowed, I hear. Only state approved pap. Treetoad, please pick your fights a little better, and don't ever lecture Americans about press freedom from the safety of your bland, mundane, monochromatic media ether.

...I think he tried that. The D's spit in his face with accusations of electoral fraud, mental incompetence, Ted Kennedy/no child left behind dagger-in-the-back, etc, etc, etc. I think the time for "unity" in D.C. is long gone. Time to put forward the conservative agenda.

R's and D's. Presidents come and go. But this represents a chance to make real, long-term change for the better.

Are you movin' to the country? Gonna' eat you a lotta speaches?

They should turn the administration of this site over to The UN and European Union immediately.

The next time you visit a cemetery, look at the all the flowers on the graves around you. Then, look across the way at the markers of those who passed in the 40's and 50's. Not as many flowers. And those gravestones that are dated from the 1930's and earlier have no flowers at all. Those who knew and loved them are gone as well. Unless those in the ground made a difference in their world such that it is historically noted, they are lost. How many climbers lie in the ground with nobody left to know or care about their adventures? Without an afterlife this existence here is just an exercise in futility - all for nothing.

Where will you be 10,000 years from now? http://www.longnow.org/projects/clock/prototype1/

Peter Porterfield?

If a dream Meant anything to me Would it seem A bold reality? If I knew My hand of fate, Would I do- Or hesitate? --Delmar Fadden Died on The Emmons Glacier in 1936 while decending from the summit of Rainier after completing the first solo winter ascent the mountain. Taken from The Challenge of Rainier by Dee Molenaar

A hybridization of dueling/drooling?

Sandi Burger was just convicted of stealing and destroying Clinton-era 9/11-related documents from the national archives. Almost nothing from the press. Whatever. Tom Delay is a powerful Republican who redistricted his home state. I don't blame the press, necessarily, for circling like drueling hounds. The fact remains though; Delay will not be convicted. Likely he will not even face a trial.

Take this bet: Tom Delay will not be convicted. The 2002 money laundering charge is based ex-post facto on Texas campaign legislation passed in 2004. This prosecutor has tried six other times to get a grand jury indictment and failed. With his complicity, he has had a film crew following him around his office doing a documentary. If, as is now alleged, he allowed this crew access to the grand jury, he himself is guilty of a felony. Nonetheless, this is really about getting a mug shot of Delay and footage of a Republican congressman in cuffs for public consumption. Even when the charges are dropped - and they will be dropped - the goal of this prosecutor is acheived. Dirty politics. Plain and simple.

I guess I missed that one.

The reasons I find you so annoying have little to do with this thread and more to do with your completely untempered youthful exuberance...and a myraid of other comments, quips, and chiming in you have done. Lets have a look: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/466292/an/0/page/0#466292 old news, but still tragic none the less. I was on the Ledges in March and was right at the spot he fell at the top of the Chute. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/453082/an/0/page/0#453082 Mount Yukla, 7500+ feet. One of the hardest mountains in the Chugach. Climbing this face this weekend.SICK! Anyone here ever done it? Should be balls to the wall! So how did your trip go, Clint?? http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/475072/an/0/page/1#475072 http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/475099/an/0/page/2#475099 ...all the while offering your vast expertise on the mountain to others, you can't even identify simple physical features on Rainier. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/461736/an/0/page/0#461736 If there is death afoot in the mountains, you seem to be the first on the scene! http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/446381/an/0/page/4#446381 Ahh yes, the famous Gibraltar Ledge winter ascent. This is where I made the mistake of simply noting on the TR that your ascent was technically a spring climb....WOW, did I get a flurry of angry PM's from the groupies in your college climbing club!! http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/s...true#Post508221 Take some advice, junior: *Don't offer advice to others that you are not qualified to give re: topography, technical, condition reports, etc. *Avoid injecting yourself into fatality reports by saying things like "Oh! I was there once! Oh, Oh!!" *Chestbeat (if you must) AFTER the climb. Not before. And if you insist on tantalizing the masses with a preview of your next grand conquest, at least follow up later with "well...uh...we never really left the trailhead." ...and maybe some pictures of your car or something. BTW: Have you ever even set foot on the Olympic Peninsula?

Actually, Clint, my point is that you are a little impetuous moron and the only one I know who regularly chestbeats before an actual climb....climbs that seem rarely to materialize. I rarely spray like this outside of the appropriate forum, but your little altercation with Sobo the other day finally convinced me that you are but a gnat only half a step up the food chain from DH.

Here's another report that you must have missed. But then, it's easier to perpetuate a myth than to do a little research before spouting off....much less actually climb something. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/488262/an/0/page/0#488262

H-e-l-l-o-o-w-w-o-o. How much longer are you going to help perpetuate this myth before you actually do a little research? You don't know what you are talking about. I'll say this one more time: Conditions on Olympus were great this summer!! Comprende' senor Clint?? Geeeez.

Love his guitar, but always thought his music could use more cowbell. Cliffs of Dover...the best mountain avaition music in history!

I climbed Olympus this past July with my kid. The "moat myth" was exactly that. A myth. Conditions were great.