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Good one, I actually did think about that whole reverse chronology thing, but got hung up on the "air." Besides, I have no doubt Marines would fight their way backward through time if given a half-working piece of junk time machine. Good post.

uncle.

I know those dirty once-our-friends Frenchies were shootin at us in North Africa in 1943. Bastards. Not sure where you're heading with this. "In the air...?" We sure didn't have an air force deployed to Libya in 1802. Or to Mexico in 1848.

I recon those Barbary pirates could have been cluster-bombed from above using stolen 19th century Frenchie hot air balloon technology.

So, what's the deal?

Holy shit, that picture gave me a flashback. It was pouring down rain when we left Cub Lake and headed down through that shit alder. I stepped in a bog and got the boot sucked off my foot. Had to dig it out of the mud, which had immediately encased it a foot deep. We each fell about fifty times--but only full-on face plants counted for points.

Yes, thanks Ivan. Do you have any interest in starting a new thread on immigration, amnesty, and the limits of executive power?

Not sure what this level of psychosis indicates, but the analysis is probably best done elsewhere. In any event, it's part of the official record: The upper portion of the Suiattle Road was closed in 2003 and barricaded to all motor vehicles in 2006. You admit to bypassing the barricade in 2008. Videotaped it, even. Not sure what your obsession with precision is here--other than "gotcha"--but the hypocrisy accusation stands. Traditional road access is desirable--and your willingness to blow the barricade demonstrates this. Good on ya. Just have the decency to support similar traditional access for others.

Yep, great area. Glad the road is now open.

Not to brag, but my memory is pretty good. No pics of the butts--must have been some other smoker who was on the Ptarmigan Traverse around that time.

We had a great trip as well--although it did rain for a bit near YangYang Lakes. If I recall, we picked up a few of Ivan's cigarette butts along the way. More hypocrisy from you & yours.

Point number two, simply not true. (And you know it.) We were there a couple weeks later and the USFS ranger who was hanging out on site was talking about it. Apparently that video was quite the topic back in Darrington. BTW, we walked. The road was clearly posted No Motor Vehicles at the time you guys busted through. In any event, the point here is the hypocrisy. "Access for we; let those fat commoners walk." [video:youtube]fD2PER1DGKA

I know, NCNP should get off their asses and put up a restaurant and tram already!! Why must one of the last remote areas in the lower-48 stay that way?? Europe has already proven you can place humanity on every square inch of the alpine, so let's get our act together. Seriously though, I'm actually curious wtf you are talking about? I spend nearly all of my outdoor time up in the N Cascades, a large % of that in the NCNP. I have never been locked out of anything, nor unable to do what I wanted to do. If we are talking about washed out roads or something...well, that's what mountain bikes and not being lazy are for. Or is there something else in particular I'm not aware of? I'm sorry josh, but this is priceless--coming from a guy (you) who crashed the washout gate on the Suiattle road in his 4wd Audi Quatro a few years back and posted the video online.

Nice try, but of course you know I was referring to to closed grade beyond to Cottonwood.

Yep. But I think Democrats have worn down this tired old racism meme. ID for beer, to cash a check, to rent an apartment--but, God forbid, we ask for ID when one registers to vote. :roll eyes:

How thoroughly rude and elitist.

If, by voter suppression, you mean trying to thwart the efforts of Democrats to enfranchise non-citizens (both documented and undocumented), then yes, guilty and proud. Of course, this isn't really suppression. In fact, the Democrat notion that low income citizens are incapable of engaging the franchise without their help goes back to the patronization/paternalism I referred to above. And the Democrats oft-expressed belief that most of these poor are minorities is abhorrent.

Specifically, Stehekin Road. And no, you can't ride your bike up the road either. The grade has been legally "enclosed" in the adjacent wilderness.

THANK YOU USFS!! (x1000)

These are nice sentiments, but you have never conveyed or practiced any of them here. If you have had some sort of epiphany recently, well, ok. But forgive me if I remain a skeptic.

Uhh, this is a first. Heretofore, you've always peddled the notion that it's evil Republicans who bear all the blame for our nation's racial injustices.

And who's been running Milwaukee--for the last hundred years? Democrats and Socialists. Wiki

Your short-legged companions are exactly the reason West Side needs to be reopened. Fantastic day hikes that offer a great introduction to the outdoors. It's always ironic to hear NPS officials and staff complaining about crowds on trails out of Paradise and Sunrise--since some of this pressure could be relieved by restoring access to the Carbon and West Side. That said, MRNP doesn't hold a friggin candle to the let's-lock-out-the-public agenda of management and staff up at North Cascades National Park.

Yep, and Wisconsin is a great example. Walker landslide. Home of Muir, Leopold, and, of course, University of Wisconsin Madison. Can't wait until we get Walker version WA. We took a small step in the state Senate this past Tuesday.

Respectfully, Jim, Rainier Park officials found enough money to acquire, restore, and staff the new ranger station on the old Carbon Ranch site. Meanwhile, the WSRoad is 99% intact. It would cost next to nothing to open it to the public--just as it is now for NPS vehicles. No, it's not about money. Still, if park officials would simply uphold their promises, folks like me would support their needed fee increase.