ScottP

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After a trip up the Grand in the early 90's, I made the mistake of walking into the Million Dollar Cowboy Bar wearing a sweatshirt with the logo of a basque restaurant named "Woolgrowers" on it.

A post originally posted by Rodchester:"Well I say that Whopper and I went into one place one night for a few cold ones and it was quite clear that we were not welcome there. We stood our ground had a brew anyway and left on our own accord.No fights...but is was painfully clear that we were not welcome there." Reminds me of a friend and I walking into a bar in rural Montana a few years back... two steps into the place and I knew that we had the wrong bar. It was like one of those scenes in a movie where the music stops and all eyes are focused on moi. In this case, all eyes were Native American and they weren't happy to see us lily white boys in their watering hole. Two steps forward and two steps back. I still get the creeps remembering the vibes coming off that crowd. But wait...Darrington Bluegrass Festival late 80's: Two friends and I are unwittingly drinking ourselves into a stupor the evening before a day of climbing up Copper Creek. For some reason there is an arm wrestling match between Doug and myself. I lose and within a minute there is a diminuative chap wearing the classic logger garb challenging Doug to an armwrestling match. Doug makes the mistake of dismissing him with a wave of the hand and a smiley, "Get the fuck out of here." Next thing we know there are two gargantuan chaps in classic logger garb looming behind him, looking very mean. Kevin and I look at each other with the, "Oh fuck!" expression and at Doug with the, "You fuck!" expression. Somehow Doug manages to charm his, and our, asses out of getting soundly thumped by some Darrington logger types with promises of much beer. Some time during the night, I roll under Kevin's monster Dodge Power Wagon to escape the rain and wake up the next morning in a puddle. A fucked up weekend for sure

quote: Originally posted by Rodchester: Well I say that Whopper and I went inmto one place one night for a few cold ones and it was quite clear that we were not welcome there. We stood our graound had a brew anyway and left on our own accord. No fights...but is was painfully clear that we were not welcome there. Since that time we eat at the resturants and go back to our hotel room. No pub crawling for me in Lillooet.

quote: Originally posted by texplorer: Not to be a smart ass but, what's your point? My take is that being pussy whipped makes him a better climber... and he likes that.

quote: Originally posted by jjantz1: in a similar vein to this classic, "ascend easy rock and heather to ..." Which leads one to the timeless, "...turn left at the gnarled shrub..."

quote: Originally posted by Dru: MMMm those Lillooet girls, they braid their armpit hairso pretty, if there was five or six of them together they might have a full set of teeth between them, sort of like Tacoma girls with class. When Tacoma girls say they got class, they mean the WHOLE class.

I enjoyed Fred's description of Spectator Spire in the southern guide:"...a climber-loosened rock crashed into the roof of a Buick parked below..." "The ascent was made by mass tyrolean traverse..." "A direct route has not been made, probably because of unsound rock." FA: Who else?

In late season, I have set up a top rope and done some "seracing" in the moat. Beware your screws melting out. It might be better to hammer in (and perhaps tie off?) some shorter pickets. On the other hand, I have done a six pitch climb up the wall above the western remnants, starting in the obvious low-angle groove to the top of the overhanging block. From there, wander up the path of least resistance. There were pins and an occasional bolt.

Edelbrock manifolds, glass packs and straight pipes for the muffler system. Gives the ride a sound like you mean biness.

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Bushwacking is fun. Everyone should get into it as a new side sport from climbing. Slide alder, berry bushes, thorns, wait an hour vines and the like are friendly. If there aint no bushwack then it aint hard. http://www.alpenglow.org/themes/subalpine/index.html

Up the Cascade River, over Cascade Pass and then down to Chelan would technically be crossing the Cascades, wouldn't it? I can see that taking less than a week.As for walking a road:Seattle to Leavenworth is 104 miles via Highways 522 and 2. 104 miles divided by 7 days is just under 15 miles/day. Your friends must be gimpy if they don't think that can be done. [ 11-02-2001: Message edited by: ScottP ]

Up the Cascade River, over Cascade Pass and then down to Chelan would technically be crossing the Cascades, wouldn't it? I can see that taking less than a week.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: "And every single night, before I go to bed, I get down on my knees and say thank you God that I, I'm a secret agent man." "But not a day goes pastI don't get up off my assAnd thank heaven cause I'm a secret agent man"

quote: Originally posted by goatboy: Does Lucky Lager work as sunscreen? Only if you are so ill from swilling you can't get out of your bag...

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Beware of the Solar slab rappel descent. easy to get lost & endless rappels of doom of sketchy equalized chickenheads. better to go down the descent shown for black orpheus. A few years back I rapped the Solar Slab Gully after doing Black Orpheus. A slow partner (I lead all the pitches) and stuck ropes doomed us to an unplanned night in December about half way down. Plan 1.5 to 2 hours for descending that beast. I later learned of the 2 rappels and walk off via the Painted Bowl.

quote: Originally posted by johnny: Thanks Carolyn!! Tradgirl is a prett cool site. Those comments made quick sense of all the thoughts in this thread.....I especially liked the beginning, I guess it is all in a name after all! OK, on a slightly different track, how many of you out there use a devise (ATC,etc.) to belay a second up to a stance? I have begun using the munter hitch almost exclusively. It seems to simplify the whole anchoring/ belaying process; less gear to futz with. A clove hitch on my end of the rope for my own anchor and another locking biner on the anchors' sweet spot with a munter to bring up the second. Less gear, less time. Any thoughts??? Are you saying that you clove hitch directly to the anchor? One thought on this is that you are taking away the dynamic nature of the natural give of your body when you take it out of the system.

quote: Originally posted by AlpineK: Exactly!! Why telemark?! Oh wait you must want to be more in touch with nature. You're anger toward somethng that is alien to your experience is manifesting itself as bad sarcasm. A round of beers with some Hippie Dippin' bretheren will put your soul at ease my friend. Seek out the relief from what ales you.

I just recently bought a new pair of Crispi CXA's from this company. Except for two european sites, I couldn't find a better price in the USofA. Nice guy, small business. They sell skiis and bindings too.

quote: Originally posted by pope: That one's from me, ScottP. quote: Originally posted by Jman: There's 5 from me, as well. I know how it feels to be unpopular. So buck up, little camper! We all think you deserve to be popular, too! You guys are tops in my book.

Did we ever get an answer to the original question? It seems like nothing more than a popularity contest...something I have been losing all my life.

quote: Originally posted by payaso: Do you "develop" this desire to lead rock? Once again, if anyone found themselves in a similar situation please share your thoughts. Thanks. I believe that after doing only two rock climbs, your lack of interest in jumping on the sharp end of the rope is normal. As you do more rock routes, gaining a better sense of balance and movement, your confidence level will increase; perhaps it will to the point where you want to lead. I have climbed with a friend who has done dozens of routes, but still has no desire to lead. You might be different. You might not.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Maybe Kennedy was an alien?? Did they get autopsy footage? You asked... http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/jfk-autopsy.html [This message has been edited by ScottP (edited 10-24-2001).]

quote: Originally posted by Retrosaurus: 'Bone, I wonder if your opinion would be any different if you had just spent the last 8 hrs above 2,000 ft in the death zone? Let us know when you get there. -Mitch I gotta agree. Hindsight is cheap. When the human body goes into survival mode, non-essential functions are shut down (Less circulation to the extremities to preserve core warmth for example). This applies to mental functions as well due to how they are linked to physiology. To say that "...it's an unwritten rule that if a climber or team of climbers is in trouble and you are in the area, you drop what ever the hell you are doing and go help out.." is easy when you aren't just able to keep yourself alive.

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: I think the pause is only noticeable at very low film-speed, which would allow us to view a natural body reflex mechanism. When a body-part encounters a resistance, it compensates by moving in the direction of the push, does it not? And if the push is so sudden, and of such high velocity as what a high caliber bullet would cause, there would be a pause before the body would be able to reflex, no? Anyway, this was just my theory, after seeing the film for the first time. The show that I saw (on The Discovery channel) didn't talk about skull fragments moving rear-ward...they alleged that the skull had been doctored. Looking at the film at normal speed, IMO there is still a pause. As for the fragments.. that's why Jackie scrambled onto the trunk of the car-to retrieve the pieces.