Look Dicknecks I don't know this BB guy and don't associate with any of his crew or followers\cronies. So get the fuck off your high horses and see my comments for what they are --> opinion. Open your minds a bit. I don't give a fuck about the media or what they have to say about climbing since it is always wrong. Peter I am not sure what you are exactly trying to imply (or not imply) about me here but just come out and say something if you don't like my comments. If you don't like the routes out there go fucking chop them.