Cpt.Caveman

I have yet to find a gym that mimmics real outdoor rock well. However the exercising of the muscles helps I suppose. I dont think texture makes much of a difference for me. But whatever everyone has their outlook on things. I prefer to wear my tennies in the gym therefore foot skills get even better and shoes last longer..

You will not get a belay in Redmond either. FYI sounds like VWorld is different depending on which one you go to. Yuppie Redmond or scummy Seattle I dont recommend Yuppie Redmond

quote: Originally posted by philfort: Hey! My mom plays bridge! I guess it's a pretty amazing card game - but its a card game!! Phil, Your mom does not count. I am talking to a climbing group of friggin people here. I would expect more comments like "Bridge a sport! Fuck the Olympics! " More hostility would be great!

I dont really get into the routesetting much at the gyms. Although all of them seem to have one or two routes with completely contrived starts for example. I prefer to climb for real and only use gyms for workout when it is raining.. Most of the time I can get to rock or ice... So if you are asking gym rat questions I cannot answer.

I have different brands of wireds. All of them do this after some time. Leave them cached somewhere for the winter and you better bring something

I just think it is bad style and sets a bad example for newer climbers. Common sense speaks for the rest

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Yeah, unfortunately Redmond is lacking in routesetters... They are allways looking for folks willing to comit to setting, (and stripping old) one route a week for a free membership. Luckily weve got a crew of about 12-15 setters in Seattle, so things ussually get changed out and washed after a few months. Maybe someone should pass the word to clean the holds at least

The dirty greasy holds are mostly found in the Redmond VWorld from my expereience they never move things around for long periods of time. I saw some routes 8 months old. Either way homey is just visiting so route moving most likely will not be an issue for him.

quote: Originally posted by bobinc: don't see how SG can be in there without textured walls... Well I dont see how you can tell me what my opinion is either

I prefer Cascade Crags. Nice Staff nice store and nice gym. Although they lack cracks at least they change their holds around more often than some other places I have visited. I would not rule out Stone Gardens either.

I dont know what bridge is but I get the impression it is for wimps and losers.

Friends told me it was definitely not in when they drove there saturday.

I dont find that humorous. I find it boring and pathetic. It shows the true degradation of Olympic sporting standards has fallen.

Back to Charlie's comments. You can try to be an internet cop but it never seems to work when trying to determine who is chopping bolts or stealing gear......

I climbed there about 3 weeks ago. The flow I did was the roadside one (Pretty Nuts). It was fat and great. You can do it.

If you can do the "sport" drunk and while drunk do it better then it's not really a sport in my opinion. Fairy ass curlers [ 02-11-2002: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

I dont know what else got done. I saw one of the flows by Spences Bridges was wet but formed somewhat. Also if it did get cold Honeyman could get formed enough to climb. Right now it is mostly there with large hole in upper part down the middle. Cherry Ice looked in..

Bolts suck. At least when I dont have to rappel from them and they are "supplementing" a nice non flaring good crack. I can stick a cam into crack every few feet if I want most times. Bummer Erik no need to get hurt. I clip bolts a lot but yes there are issues about bolt placement that suck. I dont know about Vantage enough to make a judgement on the routes located there. There are bad bolts everywhere though. I see them at Index too. Oh well.

Kind of a vague question dont you think? Are you ice climbing in Canada or Wa.? Are you alpine slogging\burrowing? Mixed and where at?

Got really drunk and somehow climbed some ice. Showed up at base of Synchronicity at noon and got most of it done. Bummer about that guy from Bellingham dislocating his shoulder in the approach gully Sounds like he will be all right though. I bet Synchroslurpee will be gone by next weekend unless some cold snap hits. I think my buds climbed Night N Gale yesterday but not sure. Ice got fatter in Marble since last time I was there. Icy BC seemed like it was hard to protect. Saw Forrest and W on it Sunday. I heard Oregon Jack was in but it looked like rain up there yesterday. More

I be with capp and erik. You might be wasting your time, money and energy replacing them if they get removed again...

Here's your ice and weather links whiny ass. Try saving them in your favorites. http://www.rockandice.com/index.phtml?section=ice http://casbc.bivouac.com/ice0102.htm#CURRENT http://www.gravsports.com/Ice%20Pages%20Folder/Route%20Descriptions/Conditions.htm http://www.iceclimb.com http://www.alpineclubofcanada.ca/calgary/news/currentconditions.html http://www.alpenglow.org/links/nwsnow.html http://www.montanaice.com http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=28 Dont forget about 50% of some peoples climbing is about communicating and experiencing with others. Sharing these experiences whether they are humorous or inconsequential to you may nnot matter to them. [ 02-08-2002: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

Keep some notes brody0. Some of us major sprayers are also contributing to large amounts of beta. Ice conditions are monitored. THis is a dead discussion and has been gone over many times. You argument will fail surely.

Just shut up whiner