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  1. I bought the paper and scanned the article on page 3. It seems very similar to the second article I pasted above. I cannot find the reference anywhere.
  2. Greg Lake John Wetton Adrian Belew
  3. Jim - Check out the portion of your quote that I put in bold. Now I tried to find that in the article you referenced and could not. Here is the entire article: So I thought I would check out the article linked in the one your referenced. Here it is: My question is simply where does it say what you say it says?
  4. Now I know why you are all so bitter. There is a hole in your hearts were baseball should be.
  5. Spring is in the air....Baseball! Leavin' early from work and walking down to Safeco for those afternoon weekday games. Seein' old friends... Makin' new ones... Turnin' on the TV every morning to watch baseball tonight replays.... Life is good!
  6. *****Lame writing warning***** A TR from last Saturday..... Fed up with winter a friend and I decided to try our luck at climbing last weekend. Both fat and lame from injuries we thought we’d avoid the snow by visiting some non-granite crags just north of highway #2. We ended up at the base of an old route I had often wondered about. The start was an arching crack through an overhang protected by two ancient angles. Above that the route was pretty much out of sight which, erroneously as it turns out, suggested to us that it would be low angle romp. I tied in and started up the crack. Before I knew it I had clipped the pins and was turning the roof. (5.9? to jugs) Above the roof there was a nice stance from which I was able to scope out the rest of the route. The crack ended and turned in to a flared groove. After about 50’ the groove steepened and was capped by a bulge which obscured the remainder of the route. When starting the route we figured we would climb it “free as free can be – for us.” After all we were climbing in a rainstorm with occasional flurries of snow. Now that the route was no longer protected by an overhang everything was running with water. I looked around for some pro and was ready to whip out the aiders. I could find nothing that would work and considered abandoning the route but the thought of reversing the free moves with wet shoes seemed more risky than climbing up a bit more where pro looked plentiful. I climbed up a bit higher but still could not find protection. A bit higher seemed more promising. By now I was about 40’ up off a very hard landing and getting a bit freaked about not being able to find any good protection. Luckily the climbing remained moderate but it was still wet and cold. Surely, I thought a few more moves and I’ll find a good crack. The wind was picking up and my partner must have been wondering what was taking so long and why the hell I wasn’t moving. I could barely make out a ratty piece of purple webbing stuck to the side of the groove. I figured there must be something there but it was hard to make out details through my foggy glasses. A few easy moves and I was there. Fuck! The webbing was attached to a beat in RURP that was rusted as hell. The webbing itself looked to have been driven into the rock. By now I was beginning to panic thinking I was going to have to down climb the entire route – something I wasn’t sure I could do. I stood there looking at the webbing wishing I had brought along a hammer and some pins - after all is wet weather climbing any different than mixed climbing up a free route? After what felt like an eternity I decided to press on to where the groove steepened and was somewhat dry below the bulge at its top. Luckily there was a rest there and at the very back I discovered the remains of an old 3” bong. It looked as though half the pin was missing but I thought I might be able to thread a piece of webbing through on of the lightening holes. I began to pick away at the dirt and moss encrusting the pin and to my dismay found that the pin had been beaten to hell. There was no way I could thread anything through it. By now I was getting really cold and about 70’ up a fall was out of the question. Continuing up seemed like suicide; however, climbing down seemed like a long shot too. The only reasonable course of action seemed to be untying and having my partner find a way to the top and then rap down to rescue me. The rope at this time was providing me with absolutely zero protection but the thought of dropping the rope turned my stomach. Finally I saw a tiny irregularity that might hold a sling. I reached out and sure enough a piece of 1” webbing appeared to be somewhat secure with a downward pull. The edge it was on was smaller than the width of the runner. My partner by this time was standing away from the cliff offering words of encouragement. I told him my plan and begged him for a smooth lower. I thought of down climbing but without constant tension the sling would have slipped off and the route angled so far to the left that any tension while down climbing would have pulled it off. After weighing the options I decided a straight ahead lower seemed the most reasonable way to proceed. I am sure the lower took only a few seconds but it seemed like forever. While being lowered I could only think of what a stupid idiot I was. After untying my partner pulled the rope and as soon as the rope pulled through the sling and carabiner went sailing into the trees. We hurriedly packed our gear and walked back to our car. Back at the car we cracked a beer and listened to rain. The only thing I could think to say was “sometimes I hate climbing.”
  7. It's no secret - Why leave perfection?
  8. In general unions are fucking their membership now. Several comments: Historicaly unions were very resistant to workforce integration and served to exclude minorities from entering union protected trades. Health benefits are to a very greaqt extent the result of tax incentives. The fact that GM would like to shift costs to someone else is mere chatter on this thread. Out of time bye!
  9. 1) click poll manager (in post options near bottom of new post screen) 2) click "add a poll" in the new window that opens=> security settings may prevent pop up from opening 3)enter poll info 4) click "done adding polls" 5) Submit post
  10. Obama said: but then again.....there is a sucker born every minute
  11. It's not true. The STP broke up and the singer left to start Velvet Revoler with that guy from GNR and the rest of STP formed Nickelback. So they arent really the same group.
  12. References required?
  13. Unfortunately the train of thought running from Sorel through Fallon turns out to be a sheep in wolf's clothing. It would be appropriately shown on a psycho-analytic schematic with emphasis on problems in adolescent development.
  14. Peter_Puget

    And so....

    link The enlightened ones and the successful debaters amongst us will no doubt be consider this due to some behind the scenes sabotage by the imperialist US..... One wonders how many epi-cycles they will devise before they understand the obvious.
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  16. Peter_Puget

    MisterE

    I know you're the new guy in town so be careful You're far from the NW
  17. More indirect thoughts: My father fought on Saipan in WW2. His teen years were subject to intense anti-japanese propaganda. After WW2 he went to college and anticipating that there would not be another war entered the ROTC program. Wouldn’t ya know it, he graduates and is back in the service – Korean War. My father for the last 20 years will not even consider buying anything other than a Japanese car. One of my Uncles was raised in an Orthodox Jewish home. His grandparents arrived in the US in the early part of the century. As far as I know there were no close European relatives. Most of the breakfasts we have shared have included bacon. To this day he will not consider buying a German car. The man who lives across the street from my parents emigrated from Germany after WW2. His older brother was a POW in the US and after being repatriated told his brother that they had to leave Germany and become Americans. Oddly he stayed while my dad’s neighbor came.
  18. depends on how you define central. I would say an hour east of Leavenworth is still central as would be an hour west.
  19. Are you guys serious? Leavenworth is only a few miles from the center of the state. Goldbar is a stretch..... I bet this guidebook will rock.
  20. Several points: The entire issue of the paper was a satire on religion. The paper was renamed”Crucifiction” from “Clareification” The paper described its own content a including a “racist cartoon and other vile material” I remind you of this comment from our self proclaim “successful” debater: If the college paper had taken a pot shot at Christianity, I assure you the reaction would have been even greater
  21. Irony, thy name is PeterPuget. Here you are KK another example to prove the point! Kinda like "Whack A Mole."
  22. fuck you asshole, I've never said any such thing. Seems that this might be the result of big government itself...clearly a case of misallocated resources. But anyway KK dont take it too personaly a petty insult thrown from behind is typical of the passive agression shown on this site and clearly reveals the lack of a coherant arguement. I remember sometime ago ChucK began a thread where I was asked by name my opinion on an article. I gave a quick one and no reply came from ChucK. Afterwards I thought about it and realized he has no underlying philosophy or understanding. His conclusion is a priori. The veracity of anything he reads is judged soley on if it confirms his pre-existing beliefs. Come the revolution baby......
  23. Just started re-reading this little classic last night. I had forgotten how good it was! The Lime-Twig
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