Lambone

'K don't forget, you got a job cuttin trees at Lambone's place.

No, wait! I just thought of it. For me CC.com "jumped the shark" with Dwayners wonderfull link to the retarded miget home page(the name escapes me). This fella Dwayner sure does some classy web surfin

No, wait! I just thought of it. For me CC.com "jumped the shark" with Dwayners wonderfull link to the retarded miget home page(the name escapes me). This fella Dwayner sure does some classy web surfin

bear spray, lighter and cheaper, and I'm willing to bet more effective...mimicks a more natural defense mechanism like a skunk, porqupine, or strange insect.

quote: Originally posted by lizard brain: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: quote:Originally posted by lizard brain: There's tons of shit to sift through here to get any real information...it's usually more trouble than it's worth, especially when there are so many other resouces available. I'm not saying this isn't a good site, nor am I saying that there's nothing of value here, but I would say that it's more of a source of entertianment than a serious resource, and that's the way most people that visit this site treat it. Looking for climbing information on cc.com is like looking for climbing gear at REI - neither is to be taken seriously. I disagree, almost every climb i did this summer I was able to easily find information on, and or get directly in touch with someone who had recently done the route. Albeit most of the routes are popular classic, but I don't plan on being a cascades "lifer" so i'm just ticken the best ones while I can, sometimes more than once... Most of the beta I have seen has been pretty spot on. Read my post. I didn't say there was nothing here, and there is valuable information. But 90% of the post on this site are hot air. Like this one, for example. ok I guess I'll be more specific. I disagree that its more trouble than it's worth. It's merely a matter of doing a search on a route or peak and skipping over trasks one liners... of course that agrument greatly depends on what kind of value you asign to beta, different for everyone, personaly I am a betahound

quote: Originally posted by lizard brain: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: quote:Originally posted by lizard brain: There's tons of shit to sift through here to get any real information...it's usually more trouble than it's worth, especially when there are so many other resouces available. I'm not saying this isn't a good site, nor am I saying that there's nothing of value here, but I would say that it's more of a source of entertianment than a serious resource, and that's the way most people that visit this site treat it. Looking for climbing information on cc.com is like looking for climbing gear at REI - neither is to be taken seriously. I disagree, almost every climb i did this summer I was able to easily find information on, and or get directly in touch with someone who had recently done the route. Albeit most of the routes are popular classic, but I don't plan on being a cascades "lifer" so i'm just ticken the best ones while I can, sometimes more than once... Most of the beta I have seen has been pretty spot on. Read my post. I didn't say there was nothing here, and there is valuable information. But 90% of the post on this site are hot air. Like this one, for example. ok I guess I'll be more specific. I disagree that its more trouble than it's worth. It's merely a matter of doing a search on a route or peak and skipping over trasks one liners... of course that agrument greatly depends on what kind of value you asign to beta, different for everyone, personaly I am a betahound

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: "One night of listening to your bullshit at the bar was enough for me, thanks." Lambone...you're one classy guy! One night, eh? I remember about ten minutes of a vacuous conversation with you...the rest of the time you were trying to impress some girls by climbing up on a beam above the bar at the Alki. Someday, when you learn some manners, you'll be surprised how much more of the world will be available to you. It took only but ten minutes to determine that there was no possible worthwhile insight that I could possibly gain from you sir. Siffting through your selfrighteous BS for content was more tedious than digging through the spray of CC.com for good beta. I'll quote the great sex chocolate on this one: "But damn dwayner, you're still a contentious sanctimonious pious pretentious overly sensitive hypocritical pig fucker, so get over yourself already!"

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: "One night of listening to your bullshit at the bar was enough for me, thanks." Lambone...you're one classy guy! One night, eh? I remember about ten minutes of a vacuous conversation with you...the rest of the time you were trying to impress some girls by climbing up on a beam above the bar at the Alki. Someday, when you learn some manners, you'll be surprised how much more of the world will be available to you. It took only but ten minutes to determine that there was no possible worthwhile insight that I could possibly gain from you sir. Siffting through your selfrighteous BS for content was more tedious than digging through the spray of CC.com for good beta. I'll quote the great sex chocolate on this one: "But damn dwayner, you're still a contentious sanctimonious pious pretentious overly sensitive hypocritical pig fucker, so get over yourself already!"

quote: Originally posted by lizard brain: There's tons of shit to sift through here to get any real information...it's usually more trouble than it's worth, especially when there are so many other resouces available. I'm not saying this isn't a good site, nor am I saying that there's nothing of value here, but I would say that it's more of a source of entertianment than a serious resource, and that's the way most people that visit this site treat it. Looking for climbing information on cc.com is like looking for climbing gear at REI - neither is to be taken seriously. I disagree, almost every climb i did this summer I was able to easily find information on, and or get directly in touch with someone who had recently done the route. Albeit most of the routes are popular classic, but I don't plan on being a cascades "lifer" so i'm just ticken the best ones while I can, sometimes more than once... Most of the beta I have seen has been pretty spot on.

quote: Originally posted by lizard brain: There's tons of shit to sift through here to get any real information...it's usually more trouble than it's worth, especially when there are so many other resouces available. I'm not saying this isn't a good site, nor am I saying that there's nothing of value here, but I would say that it's more of a source of entertianment than a serious resource, and that's the way most people that visit this site treat it. Looking for climbing information on cc.com is like looking for climbing gear at REI - neither is to be taken seriously. I disagree, almost every climb i did this summer I was able to easily find information on, and or get directly in touch with someone who had recently done the route. Albeit most of the routes are popular classic, but I don't plan on being a cascades "lifer" so i'm just ticken the best ones while I can, sometimes more than once... Most of the beta I have seen has been pretty spot on.

Watch out for wet snow slides in the late season, a friend of mine almost got himself killed up there in March, it slid above while he was leading. Then again watch out for dry snow slides in the colder months as well!

quote: Originally posted by Muir on Saturday: given this human tendency, maybe when we read something that sounds a little sarcistic or whatever, when need to take a deep breath, relax, and not get all uptight about. [i didn't intend to say anything critical in this post] But where is the fun in that?

quote: Originally posted by Muir on Saturday: given this human tendency, maybe when we read something that sounds a little sarcistic or whatever, when need to take a deep breath, relax, and not get all uptight about. [i didn't intend to say anything critical in this post] But where is the fun in that?

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: "hmmm... yeah likewise, but water under the bridge, I'll buy you a beer when we meet up in Mugs'n Jugs this winter." Hey...Lambone gonna buy Dwayner a beer! It better not be one of them new-fangled fancy modern beers that doesn't come in a ceramic jug with handles, and with all them young folk sittin' 'round talkin' 'bout quickdraws and such. Exactly. No, that was directed toward Ray, you just clicked before I did. One night of listening to your bullshit at the bar was enough for me, thanks.

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: "hmmm... yeah likewise, but water under the bridge, I'll buy you a beer when we meet up in Mugs'n Jugs this winter." Hey...Lambone gonna buy Dwayner a beer! It better not be one of them new-fangled fancy modern beers that doesn't come in a ceramic jug with handles, and with all them young folk sittin' 'round talkin' 'bout quickdraws and such. Exactly. No, that was directed toward Ray, you just clicked before I did. One night of listening to your bullshit at the bar was enough for me, thanks.

oh, now I get it... um, I generaly take less risk these days, and now I realize that alot of things I once thought were dangerous are much safer than what I used to do. aAthough, when I was just starting out I would have never elected to camp on top of Glacier Peak [ 10-04-2002, 01:46 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

hmmm... yeah likewise, but water under the bridge, I'll buy you a beer when we meet up in Mugs'n Jugs this winter.

hmmm... yeah likewise, but water under the bridge, I'll buy you a beer when we meet up in Mugs'n Jugs this winter.

There is no difference Stefan. They are both the old Scarpa Inferno which I believe are now discontinued, or no longer distrbuted through Black Diamond in the US. Too stiff and heavy in my opinion.

U'm no offense Miss Allison, but what the hell are you talking about?

quote: Originally posted by ScottP: quote:Originally posted by RobBob: Dwayner & ScottP, Doesn't the irreverent, humorous tenor of cc.com fit the broad climbing community as a whole? I get tips and ideas, and I get a chuckle or two. I know what you guys are saying, (anonymity has its effect) but the board is set up the way it is, so I enjoy it for what it is! To a certain extent. However, I believe the brutal nature of some of the posts I have read on this site wouldn't have been so brutal if those involved were in a face-to-face situation. No shit... Scott P, effortlessly good at stating the obvious. Of course, I would never say that to you in person.

quote: Originally posted by ScottP: quote:Originally posted by RobBob: Dwayner & ScottP, Doesn't the irreverent, humorous tenor of cc.com fit the broad climbing community as a whole? I get tips and ideas, and I get a chuckle or two. I know what you guys are saying, (anonymity has its effect) but the board is set up the way it is, so I enjoy it for what it is! To a certain extent. However, I believe the brutal nature of some of the posts I have read on this site wouldn't have been so brutal if those involved were in a face-to-face situation. No shit... Scott P, effortlessly good at stating the obvious. Of course, I would never say that to you in person.

You know big D, when I reread your initial post it reminds me of an episode of "Sex in the City," when the lead chick proclaims the theme of the show after a moment of deep introspection.

You know big D, when I reread your initial post it reminds me of an episode of "Sex in the City," when the lead chick proclaims the theme of the show after a moment of deep introspection.

My nomitation would be way back when Dwayner and pope began to propegate the anti-bolt/sport climber wars. Runner up would be when cavenman publicly threatened to kill me cause he thought I was making fun of Fred Beckey (I wasn't). But who really cares when or why CC.com so called "jumped the shark?" why ask? Are you woried that the respected climbing "pioneers" in the NW won't respect you when they find out you post on CC.com? By claiming that you remember when CC.com jumped the shark, you are basically saying that you were around during the "golden age" when CC.com was a nice happy climbing community that shared information and encouragement. A time when it was considered respectable to be a registered member and contributer to the boards. Once again placing yourself in the "old school" category that is inherently superior to the "new school." Once again living in the past and promoting a dicotomy between the intrest groups of our small community. Still, I will contribute my own nomination, because hey, spraying is allways more fun than work, regardless of what the "pioneers" think. cheers