Lambone

dude, no offense but that signature you got is really fuckin annoying...

Whatever man, I invited people to spray in response to my post - YOU read it again. If somebody else wants to move my thread to spray then fine, I don't care. As far as I can tell, there are no ice conditions yet so fuck it... I'll tell ya this, anytime Donna top steps name apears in a thread its outa here!

Ummm...who are you talking to caveman, would that be yourself included? I wasn't trying to come off as a hard ass, I was just trying to encourage some discusion...since some of us out here like to bullshit about something that goes into more depth than brainless one-liners. If you are talking about erik, than I would agree, he is just another self righteous rastafarian types... Jah love brah "In the end it all piles up to one big nothing at all" DM

Freinds have told me that Moonlight is is pretty fun clean aid. Faily easy, but I don't know about the free section. the key beta I can offer is DON'T HAUL! Blast it in a day or you will be hating life. Good Luck Cavey, i'm jealous...

nice

I learned to ice climb in Montana where old school locals like to keep their prized routes a secret. Many will never offer beta, or (even worse) offer false beta in order to keep other climbers away from their coveted routes (both projects, and/or routes that haven't been done in years). My personal opinion is that this kind of attitude sucks ass... I am definitely all for the posting of route conditions and beta on routes, new areas, approaches, access issues, etc... Many people will argue that putting this kind of info on the web will only increase the popularity of ice climbing, and thus create crowded routes, but I don't think this is necessarily true... I think that ice climbing has already gained popularity, and will continue to gain popularity in the future. The routes will be crowded regardless, unless people have other options to fall upon. This makes the availability of route information and conditions even more important than ever before! I think that the more knowledge climbers have about existing conditions, the more distributed they will be among all the available or "in" routes. For instance, Drury Falls is one of only two routes featured in Selected Climbs of the Cascades I, and is probably the most popular ice route in the state. Are there only two ice climbs in the Cascade Range (excluding Banks and Tieton)??? Obviously not, but people don’t know about many other routes… My point is, once Alex finishes up his guidebook, and if climbers post conditions of routes all around the state here, I think we will see less “herding” at routes like Drury and Alpental I. What do y’all think? Agree, disagree, don’t care, SPRAY ON cause until it gets colder there ain’t nuthin to climb anyway! Of course this theory goes to shit in the pre-season, because everybody is going to be top roping IcyBC as soon as it’s climbable!

Cool, I may be up there with Matt. Lets hook up for some beer and pool. Strength in numbers! Hopefully stuff will be in otherwise were bound to run into each other, and everyone else at the ice. But hey, the more the merrier right? We all got the same passion for pain.

Really...sweet, I never knew there was any ice in there. You should post more details and/or photos in the Ice Conditions forum!

I don't despise anyone pope, you are the one who harbors animosity towards other groups of climbers. My speculation is that this fool cares about the rock at vantage. They also are well aware that these bolts will eventually be replaced. So, I assume he wishes to avoid further scaring of the rock by chopping the bolts, yet by stealing the hangers, he still makes the same statement and pisses people off. Peace pal...you can have my hexes! [ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

hehehehe... Who couldn't see that coming... what took you so long!? [ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Yeah and it's generaly not a good idea to belay off of tree roots either, especialy on extreme day hikes at Mt. Si with plastic boots. Never underestimate the dangers of a "way route" while using tree root belays...

Channel 9 says,"Rescuers say the slide is 900 feet across and 600 feet deep." Dam there must be one hell of a crown on that slide! Think they had a 180 meter rope to measure it?!?!?

There you go again dissing on sport climbers. You need to get over yourself pope, you are no better than the rest of us. I would hasten to guess that whoever did this is someone who shares your attitude. The <I am rightious because I do not clip bolts, and I am going to force my will upon others> type. This idiot is not stealing hangers so that he can equip new sport routes... He(or she) is doing it to make some sort of lame ass statement and piss people off. He is just another freak with a big ego who thinks they can change the world.

Thanks to y'all who came and supported the comp! Congrat's to those who scored well and got cool prizes, and I hope a good time was had by all!!! Also, got to give a shout out to all of the folks who volunteered their time and energy to make the comp awsome! And of course, thanks to the sponsors who donated cool stuff to the cause. Cheers BTW- The results will be posted on the VW web site soon...

I think it is more likely that they will put a tram to the summit...For instance, look at Big Sky Ski Resort in Montana. Tram They blasted a level platform for that tram station on the summit with DYNAMITE!

Were the bolts chopped too, or did they just take off the hangers?

snipers, or boobytraps

F&*%k that....[ 12-02-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

So there is a new bolt where the flake was. That's sad, a bat hook would have kept the exitement alive...

Whats it look like TG, is there usualy much ice in there?

Hey Scott, when did you do that route? Recently...?

Well, atleast there is some water moving through the table... Thanks for the update Paul! Let us know if things change

Spray while you can suckers...

NICE NICE NICE, see you after finals! Hey, is that C or F. I'm assuming C since you are one of those crazy Canadians. [ 12-02-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]