Bronco

Big folding buck knife (see opening scene of Vertical Limit).

I wanted to make an important amendment to this TR and officially note that both Greg and I forgot our Cloudveil Icefloe Gloves on this adventure and probably set us up for failure as we each fell back on outdated technology, my dreadful Black Diamond Drytool Gloves (some fingers are worn through) and Greg in his (shudder) hideous, army surplus fingerless wool gloves Had either of us been properly attired in our Cloudveil Icefloe Gloves, we would have sent a potentially new route up the dag-gummed buttress. Someone should go back up there with high tech gloves and SEND IT!!!! And I think Jens did the NBC route in about 5 hours car to car, not that he really cares.

I have a pair of BD Alpine pants that are going strong into their 4th season. They've taken much abuse that would've shredded Goretex. Pretty weather proof and dry quick if you manage to soak them. I'll buy them (or something comprable) again when I manage to wear my current pair out. I've only worn my hardshell bibs twice since buying the BD pants and regretted it both times.

ebay is aid.

Absolutely not Josh. That's my point that the message sent does not justify the crime. There is a right way to go about political activism (or whatever you call what he did) and a wrong way. I don't support crazy anti-abortion wackjobs or anyone who commits a violent crime in the name of a political or religious message no matter if it's conservative or not for the same reason. People who think this kind of behavior is ok or acceptable should get some help or get a life. Non violent activism is fine by me, I say exercise your right. I was working a construction job after school one year and an arsonist torched a church also under construction right across the street. Burned it to the ground. He had no way of knowing where it would stop either and he's in prison for life.

You guys are not looking at this thing rationally. Just because it was done in the name of "envioronmentalism" you think he should get off easier than some other kind of criminal. I think setting an example of this guy is fine. The ELF and others like them are getting away with too much. I don't like these guys or their tactics at all and I know the government is fed up. Only problem is he may become a martyr of sorts. I believe part of the reason arson carries such a strong sentence is because while it may not be the intent, it has the potential of injuring or killing emergency responders and innocent bystanders. Once the arsonist has lit the fire, he really has no control over how far it'll go. It takes a pretty malicious mind to light fires in hopes it'll destroy someone's property. I doubt he has much regard for human life and belongs in prison. What the hell is a minimun?

RIP Ray.

Butt rockers!

Drury Falls is in...

Hey! Mountain trips are exempt! And WTF, I carpooled every one of those St. Helens trips you punkass! Well, well, well. Mr. Trollster is sounding a little bit defensive all of a sudden. I forgot to say - NICE TROLL TOO BAD NOBODY BUT AN IDOTIC REDNECK FELL FOR IT!!!

Everything with a turbo gets much better mileage, people just dont want to pay for it, so they get worse mileage (and performance) and pay for it over the live of the vehicle. I think they should super or turbo charge all engines. The TDI is the vehicle we are (I MEAN WERE) considering.

Josh I dont care what they do with I-5 HOV or SUV or UVRAY lanes. The people effected by it should be able to do whatever they want to collectivly fix it, just like you shouldn't look down your nose becasue someone who lives in the burbs want't to spend their weekend doing this but can't afford 2 vehicles. I'll admit that it aint easy parking at U Village, so I just don't go down there. Long wheel bases are pretty suck in the woods for the same reason. They are good for mud boggin though. GOD, GUTS and GOATS! (or is it guns?)

How excactly does banning SUV's or unecesary pickups improve traffic? You guys are misguided if you think this would open up I-5 gridlock all of a sudden.

Well post it already!

Yeah it's right after the secret handshake that we chant "any progress is bad progress, arrrrrgh!"

YEAH!!!

You are absolutely right! I think all forms of motorized transport should be banned inside city limits. You don't need a truck or car! Walk or ride your bike. Infact you don't really need shoes either, you can just be careful where you step. We should really reconsider having cities at all, maybe just go back to living in caves, it really is much less impact on the environment to live nekkid in a cave.

On a pickup "Piss of a liberal, work hard and be happy"

Gunracks look dumb in Audis. JoshK if you love the MOFO Euro's you should really consider moving there and going to school instead of CU. CU is just all rednecky anyways.

Jeeze, that statement just about sums up your political views, doesen't it? The rest of this rant is not just aimed at JoshK but, all of you moonbats who have a problem with my beloved trucks. You commie anti truck people are just great. My wife and I were briefly considering getting a car to save some gas money but you guys reminded me of my favorite reason I drive the trucks. TO PISS YOU OFF!!! The next time one of you economy car driving environmentalist geeks want to borrow one of my trucks to move or need a pull out of the ditch at the trail head, you can suck diesel exaust and munch on a goat turd sandwich. Funny thing is most of you are so bitter, I can't help but wonder if there's a little envy behind your comments. What's really holding you back from getting into an suv or truck? The price? Not confident you can fit in the compact parking space at the strip mall where you get your latte? Before you guys go laying your righteous explanation on me, I say save it, I don't care, I don't need a truck, I just love wasting resources and spending my money the way I see fit, so how about a cup of SHUT THE F#@K UP!

It is frusterating when you consider the weight of an item durring your shopping and find out that it's not accurate after the purchase. It's like finding out at the check stand that it's actually ten dollars more than the price indicated on the tag because, well, it's last year's tag. It is my experience that Arcteryx is the worst offender with their advertised weights. Why put it on there if it's not accurate? It's a sales ploy. That's what you get for buying stuff from a communist country.

yup.

I think he changed his name and took up speed "climbing".