Bronco

I noticed in the most recent Rock and Ice mag an article about smaller diameter ropes. As a recent purchaser of a BD Hotline on special for $109 I was interested in the article. As it turns out, a German climbing magazine (Klettern) did some independant tests of the Hotline (and some others) but found the Hotline failed consitently "BEFORE 5 FALLS". The 2001 BD catolog claims 7 falls which I considered when purchasing the rope. I am not going to return the rope as I think I got what I paid for, (70m dry rope for $109) and plan to only use it in the mountains, but, at the same time I can't help but feel like maybe the test results had something to do with the discounted price and feel a little decieved. they are still avaiable here: BD Specials [ 05-24-2002, 09:39 AM: Message edited by: Bronco ]

If that's true, what is the logic behind the tech tables in my latest BD catalog? Strongest rope is their 9.4 stinger II at 8.2kN Strongest daisy chain is the spectra at 19 kN I see the Freedom of the hills is rating the knot strength of the clove hitch at 60%. This makes an even more significant differenc between using the rope vs daisy to anchor with. I agree with Alpine K on the clove hitch being the riggers choice though, fast, efficent. And at the same time also acknowledge the clove hitch has been used for years with great success but, so was the swami belt. [ 05-24-2002, 09:02 AM: Message edited by: Bronco ]

I like the daisy chain or a long runner for tying into the anchor whilst free climbing mainly because it is stronger than using the rope and clove hitch like in the event your partner takes a fall directly on the belay or something. but it is more crap to worry about and get in the way.

Hardman Double Gumby Gaper if you have more than 800 posts. Hey!

and what's this braggin about taking advantage of an emotional widow to get more crap than you could ever use? Any respectable person would have given her at least $20.00 american

Nice homepage!

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Darn! Pope you're begining to irritate me. Here we haven't had an exchange in sometime and now I am going to agree with you (at least with regard to Twight and the church lady). And I have even climbed with him. I climbed with an offended church lady one time. And I swore in front of my Pastor a few years ago: I was helping him tear down the old parsonage and he cut the beam holding up the wall that held up my ladder. "SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT!" skreetched from my lips on the way down. He thought it was humorous. Now can I be hard core? Not unless you categorized me as a hard core GUMBY [ 05-22-2002, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Bronco ]

quote: Originally posted by Dru: how do you know that the same "agent orange", do you have IP addresses or what? what's an IP address? seriously, I dont know. you are right dru, it's probably a different guy posing as hard-on agent orange on a climbing spray site. [ 05-22-2002, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: Bronco ]

why do you want to get rid of this guy?

that's Ironic, I just read AO's spray on the Rock and Ice site, he apartantly has some time on his hands. I wonder if the inmates at the SOC in Monroe are allowed to have access to the internet. hmmmmmm.....

thanks for breaking it down so us non 'puter geeks can understand it.

It's not online, but, there is a more detailed version in Selected Climbs in the Cascades, Volume II by Jim Nelson and Peter Potterfield. But probably not as authoritative, in my gaper opinion. [ 05-21-2002, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: Bronco ]

NOT FIRST HAND, but I felt sorry for you. I got it off of this website: http://66.155.42.150/advscripts/climb_mta.asp ROAD CONDITIONS Snow blocks vehicle travel on the primary access roads from Trout Lake to the South Climb. Road 8040 is blocked by snow just past Wicky Shelter. This is approximately 6.5 miles from Cold Springs, the summer trailhead for the South Climb. At Cold Springs there is still 7 feet of snow. Road 8040500 past Morrison Cr. Campground has been closed (by gate) for the winter season. This is 3 miles from Cold Springs and the South Climb Trailhead. The road will be reopened in late spring, once the majority of snow has melted from the road. This closure is to protect the new road surface. For the latest information on conditions please call the Mt. Adams Ranger Station at 509-395-3400. [ 05-21-2002, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Bronco ]

You have pine needles, devils club, moss and slide alder leaves permenantly stuck in your underwear, pack, sleeping bag, hair, tent, socks, shoes, etc.

lots of people showed up, got rid of several bags of garbage and cleared some overgrown trails and about a half acre of black berry bushes by the country on saturday. also got to take a peek into the "missle silo"

I am looking for a good dog who can belay and climb 5.8, and won't slobber all over the rope. People annoy me with all of their talking.

You might wait a while as there is a high possiblility that the Mountain bike portion is still covered with quite a bit of snow, which makes for "interesting" riding, especially with packs on.

here's what i got you

so in high winds not only do you get slapped by overly long straps, that little metal buckle really hurts. I actually called BD about this and they told me after compressing the pack you slide those nifty buckles up to the main buckle to secure from strap slippage or something like that.

You know what else would be cool is if people could put a little thought into thier questions before they ask the question. another goofy question see, it's another case of a known sprayer giving good info and ignoring a deservedly spray worthy opening. Sparky, you are just being a pansy. Did someone hurt your feelings? [ 05-17-2002, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: Bronco ]

can she stand up?

here's a link to a peice at another website that speaks to this matter of standing around. http://www.camp4.com/index.php?newsid=321

vicious black flys encountered in the Mt. Index neighborhood late one summer. bit right through my t-shirt.

with the guys I climb with, standing there looking at the climb will earn you 5' of belay slack for every 10 seconds you are stationary. works for me.

I think he is cleaning house so's he can get a sponser in here to install some pop up advertizements for Ole English 800.