Paul_detrick

Steam you got to cut some slack,we was all there once.

I think you were too far left, was there 7 bolts? The bolts are not that old, but at least several years.

NAY

O.K. I agree you should take off the ring and watch, but once you tell someone, you have done your part, its up to them if they want to listen or not, you need to let go of it, people have a choice it's there's to make right or wrong. I tell them what I see them doing unsafe and thats it, it's in there court. I don't think I'm allways right there's more than one way to do things.

It seems to me most of these storys have to do with people new to climbing, I allways check my partners to make sure there doubled back and have the rope correct, double that with the new people or people I have not climbed with before. It takes two people to climb safe. And I don't care about the boneheads who think they know what there doing, I'd just as soon have them get pissed then be involded in a rescue. for what its worth

Nice replys, but you can't use intelligent and climber in tne same sentence, oxy moron. My point (if there is one)was that if some cams are lighter so you take more, you are not saving any weight.

Brain cells, sometime in the 70's small dead could be on drugs. Im sorry I could not resist.

Here I go again, your point on taking lighter weight cams instead of the camalots, if you take 6 cams that work,(lots of range)verse 10 cams that maybe 6 will work (small range)works out to be the same. Buy camalots once you set a few cams you will know these babys are bomber,and the weight will make you stonger.

The last piece of ass you guys got, was when your finger broke through your paper.

Thanks, but I should have been more clear, rockclimbing pants.

I been thinking about getting some climbing pants, I have been wearing sweats for ten years now, and want to go yuppy. So what works? I love sweats but the ass wears out too fast. I don't want to spend yuppy prices tho, I'm just trailer trash.

If you got a few bucks buy the permit, all those concert goers have to have one. Or give it to the acess fund.

You should read his book its great, funny.

What good is taking out bolts if you don't do it right. Pudding time was choped last year, they could not get out the top bolts so they just smashed them down. How is this better for the rock? I like the job the person did on red m+ms, clean you should not bolt cracks, nobody should disaree with that. The rap station on Ingils is kool, it helps speed up all those steers, you make them do there achors there and you might as well go home, its a custer as it is. It's a fun climb, but my granma could lead it, the crack takes anything. Ok I fill better.

I don't know if they check everyday or not, I climb sometimes after work and do not see them, but they know how packed it is on weekends so Im sure they make a point to check then. Wait til concerts start then it will really be packed.

When you buy a hunting or fishing lin. it comes with them, you can buy just a permit for ten dollars. I got a ticket last year, and went out and got a permit, I wrote the jugde a letter and told him I allways get one but had not yet, but got one after the ticket and he dismissed it. It's worth a try. You just have to write a letter, you do not have to appear in court. Hope it helps, to everone else BUY a permit, pay now or pay latter.

My son lost one there, is it leaopard skin? Paul

Was down at Vantage today and only saw two other groups, I was climbing with someone who had not been there before, and went down to the sunshine wall to show him around,( I try not to go there)and since noone was around took him on some of my favrite climbs. I did not see any routes without hangers, afew achors like above party in your pants (sorry Fred twin cracks) were missing, but the ones for easyoff were right there. It was not as bad as I had heard on here. If someone just put all those back thanks. Air gutar is still sweet. But I would not want to be there tomorow,the people were all ready showing up when I left.

Thanks, but that a long ways for a couple routes, It's nice for yoy tho. Paul

If you smoke a lot, you might become smart enough, to be a Ice climber, like Fred says you don't have to be smart to climb, in fact it hurts. For the sake of spray, I have killed more brain cells than should be aloud and walk around, that don't make it kool. Today I choose not to kill anymore, but it's kool if you do, how else are we going to get more ice climbers.

I don't remenber that post, so try again. Where is it? Paul

SOoooo, maybe if someone climbed with some guys, at a area they did not know so well, say like Index, than that person might take them to a place he knew better. Or he might invite someone just to climb with. And say this place was not so know, would THEY tell everone else. Just a thought.

What if you knew of a new climbing area, would you share it with the people on this board, or would you hold out, and let the small group of climbers who use it now have it all? What if there where great cracks, long faces, kool korners, big jugs. I would not want to see what's happening at some areas to go on there. IF there where a new area.

were they hardbolied?

where is it at, this is the frist i've heard of it, I often go to the other you are refering to. Paul