Dru

A buddy of mine is in Burma right now and you can't even use Hotmail there....

Anybody know these guys? U.S. Climbers in Nepal Claim Attack American Climbers in Nepal Say They Were Shot at by Apparent Chinese Soldiers The Associated Press KATMANDU, Nepal Sept. 30 — Two American mountain climbers say they came under fire from men who appeared to be Chinese soldiers during a hike in Nepal near the border. Jeff Lamoureux, 36, and David Morton, 31, both from Seattle, Wash., said in an interview Monday in Katmandu that two men shot at them on Sept. 20 while they were looking for a new route to climb 23,984-foot Mount Nagpai Gosum. They were more than seven miles inside Nepalese territory at the time, they said. "We could not believe we were being shot at. There were at least five shots fired at us," Lamoureux said. Lamoureux said at least one gunman was wearing a Chinese army uniform. The Chinese Foreign Ministry in Beijing said it had no information on the case but would investigate. No similar incidents have been reported in the past and the motive remained unclear. The climbers said they were walking a trail used by traders and refugees to sneak in and out of Tibet when they met a Chinese man who seemed nervous. "He motioned us to give food and we gave him something to eat and drink. He unzipped his jacket to show us his army uniform and he was carrying an automatic rifle," Morton said. After the man left, they saw another man not far behind, hiding behind rocks and decided that they should return to a nearby village. There they met the same Chinese man, who used motions and broken English to thank them for the food. The Americans left the village, heading toward the base camp, when they realized they were being shot at by two men, including the Chinese man they had helped. "We probably ran and hid behind the boulders for four hours before we reached our base camp," Morton said. "We waited until it was 7:30 p.m. and then headed directly to the nearest village." The altitude made it difficult to run, Lamoureux said. "I could taste blood in the back of my throat while I was running," he said, describing a condition that occurs at high altitudes, where there is less oxygen. After three days, they reached Namche, a town at the foot of Mount Everest, notified police and went back with a police escort to collect their gear, backpacks and money they left behind when they fled. Morton said when they returned with the police, a group of Tibetan refugees and Yak traders confirmed the presence of Chinese soldiers and said they had heard the shooting. Copyright 2002 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed

hophead

meow cat fight !!

Weekend after this I'm there. This weekend have to take my dad on a hike for his 65th.

You mean the infamous Oak Island money pit? Did they ever find anything in there?

its good to see sharma's year long abstinence from the green bud has not adversely affected his climbing ability. i was woried he might suffer.

its kind of ironical that after this post i went out and bagged a peak via a choss hike route up dirt. great dirt ski on the way down and views of unclimbed alpine ice.

avast ye landlubbers thars a kraken comin over the port side bow,. all hands on deck and prime the cannons to repel boarders. yo ho ho and a bottle of rum. 16 men on a dead man's chest me boys!

its whiteman falls, you mean you can't tell just by looking ? Here is a Bridge River conditions report: The Theft and Old Dogs are looking nice and wet with lots of seepage. Gift is looking rather dry by comparison may not be so fat or form this year. Silkworm was bone dry, ditto Silk Degrees. River crossing looked high. Anybody want to go up in Nov. and install a Tyrolean with me? I got hip waders. [ 09-30-2002, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Dru ]

Why stop with arms let em bare the full monty

i got to see fern play drums until my eye swelled shut from having had a sharp stick pushed into it earlier in the day. stupid trees cut them all down!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2284783.stm Look out SK and Anna and Erik!!!!

September 30, 2002 Soot Emissions Could Be Cause of China's Weather Woes Image: INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION OF RED CROSS AND RED CRESCENT SOCIETIES China's recent weather patterns represent the most severe change in the region's precipitation trends since 950 A.D. Increasingly, the southern parts of the country are experiencing flooding, while northern regions are suffering under drought conditions. Now research published in the current issue of the journal Science suggests that soot, which is generated from industrial activity and incomplete combustion of coal and biomass, may be partly to blame. Soot particles, also known as black carbon aerosols, affect climate by absorbing sunlight, which warms the surrounding air and limits the amount of solar radiation that reaches the ground. But soot and other aerosol particles are short-lived in the atmosphere, unlike greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, and their climate effects are very difficult to quantify. In the new work, Surabi Menon of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and colleagues used aerosol data collected from 46 ground stations in China to assess four different climate modeling scenarios. Taking factors such as sea surface temperature, greenhouse gases and natural aerosol particles into consideration, the researchers determined that changes in the concentration of black carbon could be the primary driving force behind the observed alterations to the hydrological cycle in the region. "If our interpretation is correct, then reducing the amount of black carbon or soot may help diminish the intensity of floods in the south and droughts in the northern areas of China, in addition to having human health benefits," notes co-author James Hansen of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies. Additional studies are needed to fully appreciate soot's role in global warming and changing rain patterns, both in China and in other regions. But because of the small soot particles' adverse health effects (their size allows them to enter the lungs, where they can cause respiratory distress), limiting black carbon production will have beneficial effects. "This could be 'low-hanging fruit' in trying to deal with the anthropogenic effects on the climate," Michael Bergin of the Georgia Institute of Technology comments. "From a policy standpoint, the payoff for controlling soot could be on the scale of years rather than centuries." --Sarah Graham

i climbed a talus slog up a mountain and saw the freshiez.

that thing has about as much chance of being built as there is of building a 8 lane highway through the seymour river to squamish. not to mention the back bowl is the back of chipmunk creek with beautiful view of logged out hole and redneck hunters to look at from revolving restaurant

i got freshiez to 5000 in the wack. i saw and touched the freshiez on saturday.

quote: Originally posted by karen: well I have asked about scramblers and got one friendly response. was told if I couldn't lead a 5'7 with my own equipment I shouldn't logon to ( a free) this website.. soo if you are lokng for answers seem to me you woudl like scrambling.. what some of these folks don't realize is tha scramblers are as kick butt as any of them We just talk less and brag less.. Yada yada holier than thou scrambler trask doesnt even climb and he spends all day on here... quit moaning about how cool scrambling is and start spraying

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: (Iain posted:) quote: ...all of a sudden I bumped my head into a maniac skiing my ascent route (I had my head down, curse these ice tools on 25 degrees, it's like doing pushups). As he skied off I took some photos to post later. Hope he had a parachute. I bet he will try doin' the dishes @ some point. It will of course be documented when he does! I continued my ascent to Muir, wielding my ice tools as best I could muster, after the whipper I had taken at the hands of that Xtreme maniac. Finally, I topped out at the hut, and, in winds that I estimate were at least 70mph, I pried the door open. Crawling inside on hands and knees, my eyes slowly became accustomed to the darkness, where I was able to make out... Alpine K burning down a monster cherry. I began to protest but noticed that sitting around him were 6 cougars. Man, that guy sure gets the pussy I thought to myself as i backed out the door...

I thought with Anna at Leavenworth this weekend was gonna be adventure dating

Dats what I got, it is lighter than my -20 BAg so i dunno about heavy, great bag for 3 season mountaineering, for sleeping outside in the Rockies in January you need something warmer though, like my -20 bag and two overbags and a whole lotta stupidity (but Fred was feeling cheap so we couldnt stay in the hut) Only disadvantage was that I had to use seamsealer on some (2) tiny non-downproof sections of the stitching that occasionally puffed feathers. [ 09-27-2002, 12:52 PM: Message edited by: Dru ]

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: E-Rock, are you a Samoan florist? I can just see a whole new meaning to say it with flowers...

i love the smell of freshiez in the morning, it smells like.... FRESHIEZ

Regular TR: We climbed Peak X via the Beckey Route. Had some great views on top. Good gear in the long crack pitch. Pulled on one cam going over the bulge. Attacked by snafflehounds on descent. Chestbeating TR: Climbed Peak X in a new record time of 5 hrs 26 minutes 4 seconds car to car. The route was really easy when you are as good as us. Freed all the Beckey aid sections. Here is a link to hero shots of me posing down. Cant believe some people aid this route. Next up - Gapewad to Freshie winter traverse, SOLO.

holy deja vu Batman DFA lay off the E: here's why Party Drug Ecstasy May Cause More Widespread Brain Damage Than Previously Thought Image: SCIENCE Raising new concerns about use of the popular recreational drug ecstasy, or MDMA, scientists have found that just a few doses of the substance causes extensive damage to brain cells in monkeys. The findings, published today in the journal Science, suggest that using ecstasy may increase the risk of developing Parkinsonism—a condition similar to Parkinson’s disease—later in life. Earlier animal studies had shown that repeated ecstasy use damages the serotonin brain cells, which help to regulate mood and behavior. In the new work, Johns Hopkins University researchers working with squirrel monkeys and baboons found that two or three sequential doses of the drug—the amount typically taken by young adults at all-night "raves"—killed dopamine neurons, which are involved in controlling movement, emotional and cognitive responses and the ability to feel pleasure. Indeed, some 60 to 80 percent of the dopaminergic nerve endings in a region of the brain known as the striatum were destroyed after just one multi-dose regimen. (In the image above, the depletion of dopamine binding sites is indicated by the increase in blues and greens seen in the scan on the right compared to the one on the left.) In humans, once damage to these nerve endings crosses a certain threshold, leading to an 80 to 90 percent loss of brain dopamine, Parkinsonism typically occurs. If ecstasy damages dopamine neurons in humans the way it does in monkeys, team member George A. Ricaurte says, Parkinsonism could develop years after taking the drug because brain dopamine declines with age. "The message seems clear," he adds. "The neurotoxic potential of MDMA is high, and use of several sequential recreational doses could have serious, long-term consequences." --Kate Wong