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you won't find bush raingear made of that fancy gore tex shit on a working man, its coated nylon with safety rel;ective strips the whole way. the theory is - if you get wet with sweat, at least you stay warm. getting wet with rain makes you get cold. i have tested this theory and agree with it. coated nylon rocks for slow bush wacking and standing around holding a rod in a clearcut. in the mountains?

that's what they told YOU, bagel boy uh right... and i just have had it wrong for the last 5-6 years... yup - bagel boy

Two faced piece of shit BTW you didn't complain about the Gong I played driving to Tatla Lake Was that Gong, I thought it was a record of your cat throwing up

The Burgess Book of Lies is good on this count as well. Except that the Burgess brothers are, unfortunately, sad wankers who were run out of Canada for sucking so much

that's what they told YOU, bagel boy

I heard the subject of this talk will be "The Pay Phones of Canada and the American West"

My favorite winter shelter is: The Lillooet motel.

1) "Climbers" M John Harrison 2) "This Game of Ghosts" Joe Simpson 3) complete works of M Twight I have noticed many climbers favorite climbing books are old classics from the 1930's or whenever. I believe this romantic nostalgism disaffects us from modern climbing and the reality of history. You know, everyone goes to Nepal with "Seven Years in Tibet" and then whines about how much things have changed. Grow up! That said WH Murray "Mountaineering in Scotland" is a total fucking classic. Ditto "No Picnic on Mt Kenya" Felice Benuzzi. Finally go get "a Climbers Life" by Don Whillans for storys of beer drinking, pub fighting, hard sends, Patagonia, Himalayas and leading 5.11 roof cracks in 1957

if the leader is in groundfall mode maybe a bouldering mat, bouncy castle or trampoline is more effective than a rope anyway

the example shows that reeling in increases fall factor and force on pro meaning pro is more likely to pop. conclusion: reeling in should only be employed if it will prevent ledge fall or ground fall.

bring back mtngoat

j-b just said easy routes for both climbers indicated the routes in question were in the easy category hmmmm?

body armour was no help in this case

Derek Hersey Steck Salathe 5.9 Alex Lowe normal route Cho Oyu or Shisapangma or wherever experienced climbers easy routes

Lambone - your buddy sounds like a cool guy. Sorry to hear of your loss. When you says his morals came straight from the Bible, and then mention his several girlfriends, I guess you mean the Old Testament and the multiple wives thing

I bet Omega Pacific is gonna hire him to be Biner Manufacturing Manager

North Pole, Canada: Province, Nunavut. Postal Code: H0H 0H0. This is where Canadian and international letters to Santa are sent. Lat 90N. Longitude irrelevant. Don't try and pretend you are more northerly than that, Strickland!!!

trivia: Leader falls from 50m above belay to 50m below belay. Factor 2 fall. Leader falls from 50m above belay but belayer takes in 10m of rope. Ends up 40m below leader. Fall factor is 90/40 = 2.25

check it out hey lurker if you read this I want a hot climber babe in my stocking for Xmas![/url]

spider freshiez! Should probably be in Freshiez Forum but silly mods would move it to spray anyways Don't let this happen to your Pieps!

trask is hiring!

I used a hand placed hooked Spectre on a mixed route once -M4 var to 3rd pitch Gib wall - that was my only pro on the whole pitch [insert chest beater icon here!!!!!]

Even experienced climber get in accidents on Cascade. I know of one climber with over 10 years of experience who was soloing up the lower approach ice when he caught a frontpoint in his pant leg, tripped, and slid over 100' down low angle ice before managing to self arrest (with a Quark, in a bush sprouting from the ice!) just before shooting over the 40' high cliff at the bottom of the route. Analysis of the accident indicated said climber was still asleep resulting from a free bivi in an unheated shack in the woods the previous night (-20C) and if he had been approaching a more difficult climb likely would have been more psyched and hence more alert and apprehensive of danger. Put another way: free soloists fall and die off 5.7-5.9 climbs, not off 5.11s and 5.12s.