Dru

Man walks into a bar. "Ouch" Whats the difference between a truckload of dead babies and a truckload of bowling balls? You can't unload bowling balls with a pitchfork. Horse walks into a bar & the bartender says "Hay! Why the long face?"

"i'm gonna wave my freak flag high baby" -jimi

That was Bud Burning not Flags burning. You were off route!

Its actually pretty bush free if you avoid White Salmon Creek. Drop straight down the clear cut from parking, cross creek, straight up to the ridge crest on the other side and follow ridge crest to bivi. Mostly through old growth, took us 4 hrs in.

Doesn't the Beckey guide say that the N. face was reported as a classic by the first ascent party but subsequently has been called loose and dangerous, or am I thinking of another route?

Yeah. How come you can't get vinegar at most places in the States?

Maybe Team Gander mountain will let me use the 15' x 7' inflatable rubber one they had Zodiac make for them. Would make a nice Bed at the Rope Up. "Hey Ladies..."

You mean Dickhead? I wonder if "MountainMan" is the same one that used to own the fish and chip stand in Brittania Beach but sold out to Mountain Woman? she was to ocheap to get a new sign so she just pasted a tiny little "wo" in so it says MOUNTAIN woMAN Fish & Chips now

you mean the Crash Poad?

So I guess you aren't gonna be climbing on the Flag Burner Wall up at Wash pass anytime soon Erwin?

That "Gripped news Flash" is a year old and predates the closure. Sorry. holly if you thought Horne was choss you must have been climbing sub 5.12. i hear its really good on the harder stuff and roofs of caves, but the vertical walls are a bit trashy. but no doubt it makes the rock in Marble Canyon look good. too bad they don't make full body helmets for the next time you try pavilion edge...

If you are only bringing the rope for the novice try taking 100 feet of 6mm cord instead. GOD FORBID that a guidebook not tell you everything about a climb including which hand to use for which hold and what brand of GoreTex to wear. Wonder how people ever manage to do First Ascents lacking this valuable knowledge.

I like the chapter in Moby dick where hediscusses the uses the whale's foreskin is put to during the flensing process

Whillans said he was coming by the office but i don't know if he actually knows where I work....? Hey MA i get off at three if you are keen or 430 if you aren't keen on climbing but want to drink.

So that means the conglomerated Caveman-Borbon-Chepe-[other names suppressed by request] total is up to 1500 or what? I woudn't even post this but no one else has pposted anything in an hour, c'mon post more people, I am bored at work. [This message has been edited by Dru (edited 09-12-2001).]

I was just being snarky... the statement that one summit is lower so you shouldnt waste your time on it[sic] set my teeth on edge.

Whether or not I make it to fall rope up is not yet determined. For example there is the opportunity to help young co-ed climbers take their first steps on the rock and then go party in Whistler the same weekend. Decisions, decisions. I will let weather and degree of bribery inducements promised by competing patrties decide. If not that weekend I will definitely be down in Leavenworth for Canadian thanksgiving leading large party of rampaging Canucks to trash classic hard Leavenworth routes like Givlers Crack and Martian Diagonal

No legs - who was it, Hugh Herr?

I hold up the bouldering poad all folded up and when he falls off I swat him with it like a pesky bug. V420, that's like v8 but with extra fruits and veggies added right.

Oh yeah, how dare anyone "waste their time" doing something other than going to the highest summit... next thing you know they will be climbing girdle traverses and we all know that real climbing is only about getting on top. Let me know when you save the $$$$ to have us guided up Everest

I climb semi regularily with an older guy now reaching 50 who claims he is now edging down out of the 12 range back into hard 11s as his limit. Wears rock shoes over wool socks even in the gym. Has 'cave draws*' made of tied webbing with an oval biner at each end. Down-solos 10a. Last bought a piece of gear in 1993. Can do 20 situps while hanging off a hangboard by his toes. Climbed 11cR alpine onsight first ascent with a certain B.B. while resident in Washingtion in the 80s. Yeah I mean Andy Cairns. The guy is a full on hero and he doesn't even know it. * This term coined by G. Foweraker.

If you still need a job I hear Caveman is looking to hire a flunky for the prestige factor.

I wore some big gobies in my hands last evening holding onto a round arete then falling off then finally climbing (The Beak V0+?? ) but if you are still stuck here this afternoon I will spot or belay as necessary

Gripped is Ok if you are a Canadian but the gear reviews are sycophantic to the extreme and much of the articles consist of blatant fawning over some big fish in a little pond. Needs some editors who aren't Ontario 1-pitch limestone climbers. maybe if it was based in Canmore or Squamish instead of Toronto it would be better mag? The bulletin board on the website is fun though. totally unregulated spray-anything-you-want under whatever name you choose.

Valhalla Pure vs. Climb On is a whole other thread topic. I'm glad they are both in Squamish because they complement each other nicely. I have to say I like Climb-On better than V Pure but I'm not saying either of them is a bad store. Climb On was the first store in the whole Squamish-Vancouver corridor to carry GiGi's and Kong Adjustable Fifi's... and those weird universal pitons. still don't know anyone who has actually found one of those pins useful but they sure look neat